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« on: June 18, 2021, 11:51:49 PM »

     Glad to hear Catholic bishops look poised to do the right thing. I wasn't expecting them to go through with it.
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2021, 12:01:51 AM »

I don't see the issue with Bishops being Catholic and following Catholic doctrine.

Because The Bishop's enforcement and definition of so-called Catholic Doctrine is selective as hell.

I mean, IIRC abortion is seen as considerably worse than what Republicans are doing.  There's also the issue that the Catholic Church used to support the death penalty, but never supported abortion.

Unfortunately that's simply empirically incorrect. I can tell you both first-hand following the church's progression both when I was Catholic and has a formula that the church has always always always always whispered its opposition towards miserly anti-christian government policy set screw the poor and contract efforts of social justice of peace, while bellowing from megaphone conservative partisan issues like abortion, gay marriage, and euthanasia. If they were truly even handed or even close to it such subjects, I could respect the church a heck of a lot more at night I can I can well, no, four Bears theological issues still wouldn't - - be a member of the church. But they really have been absolutely happy with this double standard which is according to the preachings of Jesus himself, theologically unsound as hell for the last 40 years. Frankly, when we use the church's doctrinal history goes back Centuries with only brief periods of Reform. But that's another subject.

Also, more fundamentally when one looks at the current makeup of regular churchgoers and its primary donors, if the American Bishops or anywhere near as even-handed in their condemnation of policies that defy Jesus's teachings about the poor and the outcast situations like a portion of homosexuality, the pews on Sunday and, even more importantly, American churches bank accounts, would be markedly diminished.

But if the Catholic Church is right about abortion, then it's the most evil thing happening in America today.  How could anything else come close to it?

     Nothing could, of course. The people drawing an equivalence don't follow Catholic priorities, so their complaints of alleged hypocrisy merely amount to a difference in moral compasses. The bishops don't prioritize their opinions, nor should they.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2021, 11:25:41 AM »

Any religious person who would deny someone else a part in their religion is not actually religious.

     This is a severe misunderstanding of the Catholic position. They are not excluding Biden, but calling him to repent for his own good. Unfortunately Americans have an entirely alien dialectic concerning communion, so the Catholic rationale is lost on the people.
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2021, 01:05:27 PM »

Any religious person who would deny someone else a part in their religion is not actually religious.

     This is a severe misunderstanding of the Catholic position. They are not excluding Biden, but calling him to repent for his own good. Unfortunately Americans have an entirely alien dialectic concerning communion, so the Catholic rationale is lost on the people.

Biden is pushing for policies that will lower the abortion rate. He is a pro-life Catholic hero, unlike that pro-abortionist Trump who would have caused more abortions.

You are the one who needs to repent from your sins of supporting pro-abortion Republican policies.

     Catholic (and also Orthodox) moral theology is not utilitarian, so the argument that Biden has reduced the number of abortions carries little to no weight within that paradigm so long as he supports them being legal.
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