Recognition Procedure Act of 2015 (Tabled)

[Associate Justice PiT]

Establishing relations with the Mock Parliament is not just extending recognition toward a non-playable nation, but pretty much changing the way of how the game operates. It cannot be done by a single stroke of one man's pen.

Most of those who oppose the President's unilateral action are open to have a relations with South America. The issue is how to proceed with this. I, for one, fully realize the vacuum problem and either relations with South America or independent Northeast (if they really want this) are good solutions. BUT is should not be done hastily and without laying a workable frameworks. As I've said before, without certain framework and synchronization, the diplomacy will be chaotic waste of time.

If South America really wants to have a fruitful and workable relationship with Atlasia, I'll be the first to vote to confirm such a recognition.

     I basically agree with this. I have lamented the decline of the executive's power, but I just don't think that this is the best way to proceed with recognizing South America's sovereignty. I'll be voting in favor of this bill.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Look, I don't like this executive order, and I don't think recogniztion should come now, but we're basically stripping the Presidency of yet another of its powers and the position itself has been made too weak over the past years.

Being an advocate on executive power, I'm not sure I can support this much as I dislike that executive order.

     I tend to agree with your viewpoint, but I think the question is whether this is even a power of the President at all. That is not clear based on the discussion in this thread.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I echo what Simfan is saying. I don't know the ins and outs of the US constitution, but everyone agrees that the president is solely responsible for recognising states, we've seen that with Truman in Israel and with Obama and Cuba, to name two.

Now there are no powers that the US president has that the atlasian president does not, so it logically follows that the atlasian president has the power to unilaterally recognise countries.

The Atlasian Constitution and other laws differs, sometimes very significantly, from the US laws.

You can't just make up a power that is nowhere to be found in our law because "Truman recognized Israel".

     I would mention that there was a Supreme Court decision very early in Atlasia's existence that determined all laws passed by the Senate were mere suggestions, because the Constitution did not enumerate powers of the Senate. That the United States and Atlasia function the same is a dangerous rule of thumb for us to be basing policy on.

[Associate Justice PiT]

      I agree with this amendment. Recognition of and diplomacy with a playable country has too many long-term ramifications to be undertaken lightly.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I'm inclined to say that this debate is of limited importance given the context of the Convention, except that President bore maintains that he has authority to extend recognition to South America. The salient issue is that the Constitution does not delegate this authority to anyone, and any real resolution to this issue will have to be done through the Convention.