Intern Protection Act (Tabled)

[Associate Justice PiT]

I would have supported this in its current form and even adding in a minimum wage for them as well. The problem is that when we jack it up to the mainline rate we are essentially ending internships. Whilst there are problems, there are also cases of valuable skills being learned and therefore attaining their destruction is a mistake in my view where it is intented or not.

ITT apologism for slavery

If an internship at a reduced wage gets somebody skills to compete for good jobs they would not otherwise have, I would take that trade-off. Of course, you would not but then again you were never one for being practical on economic policies.

That said, you have made it fun this past year and eight months and of all the Senate rivals I have had from the other side of the aisle, you were the most persistent and I respect persistence.

Should we really be encouraging that? I mean, even if we accept that unpaid internships are wholly altruistic vehicles for skill enhancement (which, let's be honest, isn't remotely close to the case), there's still the very real problem that you're only providing that enhancement to people who can afford the opportunity cost of not earning in that time period. In that reality, unpaid internships essentially function to deny the poor education, for all intents and purposes.

It depends on the reduced wage and employers are under no obligation to offer internships. Instead, it could very possibly be the case that many cease to exist because the company is bringing in someone untrained when they could just go for those with the perfect, freeze dried, foiled sealed and prepacked employees with ten years of experience instead. And then these people would be shut out entirely from the workforce with no experience to work from, which means they probably end up at retail or fast food.

     That's something that I have been thinking about. There is a certain in-built advantage for those who have the right connections, and no real means of mitigating it. While unpaid internships do disproportionately benefit the wealthy and the affluent, the arrangement that would result from their proscription would also be very likely to disproportionately benefit the wealthy.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I would have supported this in its current form and even adding in a minimum wage for them as well. The problem is that when we jack it up to the mainline rate we are essentially ending internships. Whilst there are problems, there are also cases of valuable skills being learned and therefore attaining their destruction is a mistake in my view where it is intented or not.

ITT apologism for slavery

If an internship at a reduced wage gets somebody skills to compete for good jobs they would not otherwise have, I would take that trade-off. Of course, you would not but then again you were never one for being practical on economic policies.

That said, you have made it fun this past year and eight months and of all the Senate rivals I have had from the other side of the aisle, you were the most persistent and I respect persistence.

Should we really be encouraging that? I mean, even if we accept that unpaid internships are wholly altruistic vehicles for skill enhancement (which, let's be honest, isn't remotely close to the case), there's still the very real problem that you're only providing that enhancement to people who can afford the opportunity cost of not earning in that time period. In that reality, unpaid internships essentially function to deny the poor education, for all intents and purposes.

It depends on the reduced wage and employers are under no obligation to offer internships. Instead, it could very possibly be the case that many cease to exist because the company is bringing in someone untrained when they could just go for those with the perfect, freeze dried, foiled sealed and prepacked employees with ten years of experience instead. And then these people would be shut out entirely from the workforce with no experience to work from, which means they probably end up at retail or fast food.

     That's something that I have been thinking about. There is a certain in-built advantage for those who have the right connections, and no real means of mitigating it. While unpaid internships do disproportionately benefit the wealthy and the affluent, the arrangement that would result from their proscription would also be very likely to disproportionately benefit the wealthy.

Yes, an internship gets you a potential in, but without them it is going to go to those who already have been well established in the field and thus likely, more wealthy then a college student is.

     It's sort of a no-win situation there. The way to go is to grow the pie; otherwise you are just left with the same imbalance of labor supply and demand. Many people still end up with no real career and poor lifetime earnings, but you just change up which people those are. Growing the pie is the tricky part.