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« on: September 01, 2010, 12:03:07 AM »

     FF for rejecting the caste system.
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 01:05:51 PM »


     Well my sources lied to me. Blame them. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2019, 03:37:00 PM »

Guys, the logic is pretty simple:

Religion A makes a claim about the world and divinity.
Religion B makes a separate claim.
Therefore Religion A and Religion B have conflicting claims.
Therefore Religion A and Religion B can not BOTH be correct.
Therefore if one adheres to Religion A, they must believe Religion B is a false religion and vice-versa.

Anyone who claims to be a Christian and doesn't believe all non-Christian religions are false must have some serious logical reasoning problems.

What a sad, blinkered view of religion you have.

You think simple logical syllogisms are sad and blinkered? Good grief.

I think that reducing religion to a competing, zero sum set of logical claims is sad and blinkered, yes.

Truth claims are an integral part of what religion is. It attempts to answer big questions like the nature of the divine, what happens after death, how should we live etc. Moreover, the religions themselves make key, mutually exclusive truth claims.

Jesus Christ among other things said "Before Abraham was, I AM" and "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." What does Islam have to say about this? Islam says there is only one God, Allah. What does Hinduism or Mormonism have to say about that?

Many religions have made important, mutually exclusive truth claims, have stated their importance, and have built entire ways of life around them. To come along and say that the view of religion they've built up is 'sad and blinkered' is not only patronizing to those religions and their adherents, it's also making yet another mutually exclusive truth claim about religious faith and the divine.

There are plenty of religious people who don't view those truth claims as fundamentally at odds with one another. Sure, some of the claims are incompatible in a strict sense, but that's reducing religion to a set of truth claims, and dismissing things like long mystical traditions across all sorts of religious traditions. In Eastern Christianity, for instance (as I'm sure you know), the doctrine of the Trinity isn't a confusing set of facts to be puzzled out, but an incomprehensible puzzle whose logical entanglement is integral to it.

     Eastern Christianity doesn't make-believe that it is possible for both Christianity and Sikhism to be true. Cataphatic theology is an observation on the fundamentally incomprehensible nature of God. It is not an excuse to advance logically impossible claims.

     We still hold it to be a fact that there is one God, who created humanity in His image, and that the Son of God, Jesus Christ, died for all our sins. Any religion that rejects these claims rejects our mystical tradition and is false in our eyes. Despite that, God by His grace can and does save upright people who adhere to non-Christian faiths. This is not to be understood as affirming those faiths to be true.
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