The Public White House: Constitutional Convention at FINAL VOTE!

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I doubt there is much threat of Maoist policy being enacted given the composition of the upcoming Senate. A hawkish foreign policy may have more success, but I suspect that would ultimately be frustrated as well.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I see fairness, balance, and respectfulness weren't on the list of criteria when you were deciding who to appoint.

I chose those who I believed would be competent. I chose those who I knew would be active. I did not take ideology or personality into account because that has nothing to do with how I plan to run my administration. I think the number of Atlasian political parties represented in the Cabinet can attest to that.

If all people focus on is personality contests and false ideological lines in the sand, this game is doomed. We need reform and we need it now. My administration has no time for ego trips and left/right debates.

Mr President Spectator and Society; you have nominated a noted forum apologist for Maoism and the extreme left (and it's excesses) for the post of SoIA. Would you ever be willing in the future to nominate a Falangist or apologist of the extreme right for a similar role if they were proven to be competent?

As a matter of fact yes. I considered NCY for a Cabinet post, but he made clear that he would prefer to maintain the RPP presence in the Senate, rather than join my administration.

Honestly, my nominees should not be judged on their ideologies because that is not what they will be doing very much with. My administration will be all game reform, all legitimacy of the Executive, and all activity and competence. I don't plan on jumping into the fray on divisive ideological issues; you all can do those once I'm gone.

PS, I would not consider NYC to be 'far right' or remotely Falangist, so I'm not sure what you think I meant when I said would you nominate someone of the 'far right'; if it helps any better think of the other 'f' ideology (rather than Falangist)

NCY has definitely had his moments. I distinctly remember one reelection rant announcement that drew a hefty bit of criticism.

Anyway, I mention NCY to show that I do look across the spectrum and base my picks based on competence, activity and trust. I should also note that while I may appoint people with strong personal ideologies, those won't be playing a role in my government.

     NC Yankee has been pretty right-wing at times, but not in a manner that could really be construed as fascist. To be honest, I do not really think there is anybody on the forum who is genuinely a fascist. In that case, an obvious defense is that there simply isn't a potential nominee that is as far to the right as Winston is to the left.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I see fairness, balance, and respectfulness weren't on the list of criteria when you were deciding who to appoint.

I chose those who I believed would be competent. I chose those who I knew would be active. I did not take ideology or personality into account because that has nothing to do with how I plan to run my administration. I think the number of Atlasian political parties represented in the Cabinet can attest to that.

If all people focus on is personality contests and false ideological lines in the sand, this game is doomed. We need reform and we need it now. My administration has no time for ego trips and left/right debates.

Mr President Spectator and Society; you have nominated a noted forum apologist for Maoism and the extreme left (and it's excesses) for the post of SoIA. Would you ever be willing in the future to nominate a Falangist or apologist of the extreme right for a similar role if they were proven to be competent?

As a matter of fact yes. I considered NCY for a Cabinet post, but he made clear that he would prefer to maintain the RPP presence in the Senate, rather than join my administration.

Honestly, my nominees should not be judged on their ideologies because that is not what they will be doing very much with. My administration will be all game reform, all legitimacy of the Executive, and all activity and competence. I don't plan on jumping into the fray on divisive ideological issues; you all can do those once I'm gone.

PS, I would not consider NYC to be 'far right' or remotely Falangist, so I'm not sure what you think I meant when I said would you nominate someone of the 'far right'; if it helps any better think of the other 'f' ideology (rather than Falangist)

NCY has definitely had his moments. I distinctly remember one reelection rant announcement that drew a hefty bit of criticism.

Anyway, I mention NCY to show that I do look across the spectrum and base my picks based on competence, activity and trust. I should also note that while I may appoint people with strong personal ideologies, those won't be playing a role in my government.

     NC Yankee has been pretty right-wing at times, but not in a manner that could really be construed as fascist. To be honest, I do not really think there is anybody on the forum who is genuinely a fascist. In that case, an obvious defense is that there simply isn't a potential nominee that is as far to the right as Winston is to the left.

Its really a perverse desire on my part that makes such semi-fascist statements/rants come out. I can sense where the boundaries of reason are and I used to intentionally stay within them while I was maintaining North Carolina Yankee as separate entity but when that broke down last year, my true qualities came forth one of which is this sick infatuation for pushing beyond the boundaries of sanity in my comments.

     Everybody possesses within themselves the capacity for insanity. Part of living & functioning in society is steering clear of that area of the psyche, but being a perfectly normal, upstanding person is not that interesting. Personally, I am much too "civilized".

[Associate Justice PiT]

I see fairness, balance, and respectfulness weren't on the list of criteria when you were deciding who to appoint.

I chose those who I believed would be competent. I chose those who I knew would be active. I did not take ideology or personality into account because that has nothing to do with how I plan to run my administration. I think the number of Atlasian political parties represented in the Cabinet can attest to that.

If all people focus on is personality contests and false ideological lines in the sand, this game is doomed. We need reform and we need it now. My administration has no time for ego trips and left/right debates.

Mr President Spectator and Society; you have nominated a noted forum apologist for Maoism and the extreme left (and it's excesses) for the post of SoIA. Would you ever be willing in the future to nominate a Falangist or apologist of the extreme right for a similar role if they were proven to be competent?

As a matter of fact yes. I considered NCY for a Cabinet post, but he made clear that he would prefer to maintain the RPP presence in the Senate, rather than join my administration.

Honestly, my nominees should not be judged on their ideologies because that is not what they will be doing very much with. My administration will be all game reform, all legitimacy of the Executive, and all activity and competence. I don't plan on jumping into the fray on divisive ideological issues; you all can do those once I'm gone.

PS, I would not consider NYC to be 'far right' or remotely Falangist, so I'm not sure what you think I meant when I said would you nominate someone of the 'far right'; if it helps any better think of the other 'f' ideology (rather than Falangist)

NCY has definitely had his moments. I distinctly remember one reelection rant announcement that drew a hefty bit of criticism.

Anyway, I mention NCY to show that I do look across the spectrum and base my picks based on competence, activity and trust. I should also note that while I may appoint people with strong personal ideologies, those won't be playing a role in my government.

     NC Yankee has been pretty right-wing at times, but not in a manner that could really be construed as fascist. To be honest, I do not really think there is anybody on the forum who is genuinely a fascist. In that case, an obvious defense is that there simply isn't a potential nominee that is as far to the right as Winston is to the left.

Its really a perverse desire on my part that makes such semi-fascist statements/rants come out. I can sense where the boundaries of reason are and I used to intentionally stay within them while I was maintaining North Carolina Yankee as separate entity but when that broke down last year, my true qualities came forth one of which is this sick infatuation for pushing beyond the boundaries of sanity in my comments.

     Everybody possesses within themselves the capacity for insanity. Part of living & functioning in society is steering clear of that area of the psyche, but being a perfectly normal, upstanding person is not that interesting. Personally, I am much too "civilized".

Its not even trying to but failing to avoid that area of the psyche, I could deal with that. However its when I am both in that area of the psyche and getting some kind of sick satisfaction or pleasure out of being there, that's truly disconcerting.

     Well it is not uncommon for people to experience pleasure in acting in ways contrary to the dictates of proper society. It's the sort of rebel factor, the ability to say & do what others only dare to think. There is a great deal of music made across all genres & across the world that glorify the outlaw.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     The will of the people was electing the more centrist candidate with a fully formed ticket. Trying to read anything more into the intentions of Atlasian voters is an exercise in frustration, really.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Vepres, there is longstanding acceptance that Atlasia is more along the line of a European/Canadian political spectrum as opposed to the American one. You can deal with it or not, it's not my problem, but don't try to purport people like PiT or SPC as your charming examples of the poor beleaguered Atlasian right.

As for right-wing legislation, I couldn't care less. You would quibble over the definition of "right wing legislation" if I ever did get examples, anyway.

The only reason I'm responding is to point out the fact that you did a complete dodge of my biggest point, the idea that there is never close calls or rejected legislation in the Senate. It was one of the cruxes of your argument, and it is entirely unfounded. That is all.

     Besides, by your definition of the Atlasian right, I'm not part of it.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Of course, this is all because those issues have all been "solved" in Atlasia at the present moment. The game's status quo is a social democracy, most of us accept the role of strong regions and we have focused almost exclusively on non-controversial issues or game reform for a while. In the place of real issues, the game has become a test of personalities.

And that's why the game sucks. You all are the reason for it.

Well I'm going to try to undo that, but I can't do it alone. Broad popular support for a federal "reset" is needed to make it happen.

I think a determined opposition on the right would work just as well as a reboot. If elected (shameless plug ) I will help to organize a strong opposition to the status quo of vague social democracy.

Besides, without a strong opposition, a reboot would be rather pointless, as you'd essentially end up where we are now within a few Senates.

A strong right would be possible only if the right is organizationally and numerically more powerful than the JCP, which will be determined in the upcoming election.

That said, a resurgent right is by no means a replacement for a "restart." I fear that a right-dominated Senate would end up just as entrenched and boring as the status quo, simply frittering away at the margins. To create true excitement, we need to start over.

     A right-wing majority would likely disappear much more rapidly, though, since the internet is a fairly left-leaning place.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Of course, this is all because those issues have all been "solved" in Atlasia at the present moment. The game's status quo is a social democracy, most of us accept the role of strong regions and we have focused almost exclusively on non-controversial issues or game reform for a while. In the place of real issues, the game has become a test of personalities.

And that's why the game sucks. You all are the reason for it.

Well I'm going to try to undo that, but I can't do it alone. Broad popular support for a federal "reset" is needed to make it happen.

I think a determined opposition on the right would work just as well as a reboot. If elected (shameless plug ) I will help to organize a strong opposition to the status quo of vague social democracy.

Besides, without a strong opposition, a reboot would be rather pointless, as you'd essentially end up where we are now within a few Senates.

A strong right would be possible only if the right is organizationally and numerically more powerful than the JCP, which will be determined in the upcoming election.

That said, a resurgent right is by no means a replacement for a "restart." I fear that a right-dominated Senate would end up just as entrenched and boring as the status quo, simply frittering away at the margins. To create true excitement, we need to start over.

     A right-wing majority would likely disappear much more rapidly, though, since the internet is a fairly left-leaning place.

That's your problem to solve, not mine. I'm an avowed game reformist who happens to favor regions merely as a functional means of introducing new members to the game. Leave me out of the ideological stuff.

     A regionalist is a regionalist is a regionalist.

     As for the reboot stuff, I personally think that having to repass some consensus bills would be boring, but I'm not a Senator, so my opinion of it doesn't matter.

[Associate Justice PiT]

You see that is the problem with the reboot though. You would have to separate and only start over with some bills and then the mere act of deciding which ones would be a nightmare.

     It would also be a recipe for partisan wrangling & establishing the law as heavily leaning towards whatever faction was in control of the Senate at the time. Keeping forum affairs legislation would probably be a good idea, but anything short of ditching every other bill on the books would probably lead to a stillbirth for the poor parents of the would-be reboot.