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« on: November 11, 2009, 06:45:15 PM »

Libertarians have a pretty backwards definition of economic liberties anyway.

    This a perfect example of why I don't want to ally with Democrats.
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2009, 07:00:15 PM »

Libertarians have a pretty backwards definition of economic liberties anyway.

    This a perfect example of why I don't want to ally with Democrats.

Doesn't matter. The more you do - and unconditionally - the more likely they are to come around to your point of view, as reciprocation for your support.

     I'd prefer to work specifically with certain people (in both parties) rather than give a free ride to freedom-haters. Part of the reason we aren't taken seriously currently is that some of us are afraid to tell Republicans when they are wrong. Why would it be any better if we refused to tell Democrats when they are wrong?
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 07:52:47 PM »

Libertarians have a pretty backwards definition of economic liberties anyway.

    This a perfect example of why I don't want to ally with Democrats.

Doesn't matter. The more you do - and unconditionally - the more likely they are to come around to your point of view, as reciprocation for your support.

     I'd prefer to work specifically with certain people (in both parties) rather than give a free ride to freedom-haters. Part of the reason we aren't taken seriously currently is that some of us are afraid to tell Republicans when they are wrong. Why would it be any better if we refused to tell Democrats when they are wrong?

To an extent, yes. The same thing that got us into this mess is capable of getting us out. The reason we're not taken seriously is because we look like purely cold-hearted capitalists. If we can start to find our own voice on civil liberties, the Democrats (surely soon to be in the minority yet again) will follow.

     Well yes, we do need to find our own voice on civil liberties. At the same time, forgetting economic freedom is bad, even if it is a better idea than voting for corporatist shills. That's why I advocate disassociating with both parties & existing as a swing bloc so that the Republicans & Democrats must both compromise to try to gain our support.

      With that said, should things continue this way & the populist elements completely leave the Democratic party, I will be glad to throw in my lot with the red avatars.
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