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Demrepdan
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« on: January 08, 2004, 06:59:36 PM »
« edited: January 08, 2004, 07:02:16 PM by Demrepdan »


Thank You.  My first question is to Demrepdan.  What exactly is your stance on abortion?

Where do I stand on abortion? Well, I do believe I have made my stance on abortion quite clear. The person who SHOULD be asked where he TRULY stands on abortion is PD.

Here is my stance, as stated before. I support abortion in these cases.

   The mother of the child is raped. The child is a product of incest. The mother's life is in danger, and she will die if she has the child, thus risking the child's life as well. So why let TWO people die, the mother and the child, when you can save the mother? I will LISTEN to those people who think that abortion is ok if the doctor determines through genetics that the baby will have major birth defects. I will LISTEN to them, but as I feel right now, it is wrong. You should give the baby a chance at life no matter what disabilities it may have when it is born. You never know what may happen, what cures may be discovered tomorrow, that can better the baby’s life.  I am also willing to LISTEN to other reasons as to why a woman should have an abortion.
   ABOVE ALL, I do not support partial birth abortion, even if ANY of these aforementioned scenarios apply. Abortions should only take place in the early part of the pregnancy, perhaps the first trimester.

I am DISGUSTED in women who get an abortion simply because she got pregnant, and she uses it as a "birth control" method. If you had SEX with some "cute boy" you just met last night, and now you regret your mistake. TOO BAD! LIVE WITH IT! We learn from our mistakes! The GIRL who had unprotected sex should learn from her mistakes, and NOT the baby in her belly! She should take responsibility for her actions! Those are my feelings on abortion. And if elected, I will attempt to pass an "Abortion Reform" bill through congress. It would not get RID of abortion, but it would make the rules on getting an abortion more strict. Many of my rules stated above, would be integrated into the bill.
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Demrepdan
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2004, 11:44:05 PM »
« Edited: January 08, 2004, 11:47:53 PM by Demrepdan »

Ok, lets break this down.......
Is that a question?
Why are you so adamantly against abortion, but not so if the mother was raped?
The mother was violated. The mother did NOT want the sex, thus, did NOT want the pregnancy. And could you love a child of a man who raped you? I think you're missing my point as to WHY I'm against most aspects of abortion. The MAIN thing I hate about abortion, is when the mother just wants to get RID of the baby, after having purposefully had SEX with the man. When the mother uses it as a form of birth control. It's the lack of responsibility on the mother's part. When the mother is raped, she never asked for this responsibility in the first place.
You're SO about the babies, but those babies are no different.
WRONG. I'm more about the MOTHER'S than I am the baby. The mother's health. I don't view abortion as so much of a "murder" as others do. It's not like you're taking a baby from a cradle and KILLING it. But it is killing a human-being nontheless.
You seem to support the baby over the mother anyway, so why is that baby any different?
Again, I support the mother WAY over the unborn child. The baby is different, in my opinon, because it is an unborn child. A developing fetus. It may have a tiny heart beat, it may be a living thing, but the mother is more important. Until the baby can live OUTSIDE the mother on it's own, then it makes me view it as not SO bad when I think about it. The baby DEPENDS on the mother to live, and if the mother should die, then so will it.
Why does that baby have any less right to live?
You're attacking me as if I'm AGAINST abortion. I'm against certain ASPECTS of it. The main aspect is when the mother uses it as a form of BIRTH CONTROL. If I had a choice, to either BAN abortion ALL together, or accept all forms of abortion, except for partial birth abortions, I would choose to NOT ban abortions.
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Demrepdan
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2004, 11:56:52 PM »
« Edited: January 08, 2004, 11:58:29 PM by Demrepdan »


Keep your cool.

Anyways, I would like to see what the candidates stance is on the space program. Where do you think we should go? When do you think we should go? Should establish colonies/spacestations on the moon?
I do not think we should establish space colonies anywhere. Earth gets my vote here. I'd like to keep things the way they are in that department, at least for now.
I would have to agree with PD on this one. We need to invest MORE interest in our own EARTH than other parts of the Solar System. We should put the planet Earth, and US, first.
    However, I feel that ultimately we should research on colonization, and exploration of other worlds. The Earth will not last forever, in fact the Earth will inexorably last much longer than human-beings. Accordingly, in order to insure the survival of the human race, we may ultimately have to expand to other places. If I were elected President, I would not cease funds to the space program, nor would I cut their budgets. In fact I would probably try to increase their budget SLIGHTY. But the space program will not be my main concern. I will fund other things first before I would give more money to NASA. Space Exploration is a gradual process, we cannot achieve all goals over night. However, I vow not to slow down this process in any way whatsoever.
   What I will mostly be thinking about, is the planet Earth, and how to make mother Earth last as long as we can make her last.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2004, 04:50:45 PM »
« Edited: January 11, 2004, 04:52:32 PM by Demrepdan »

This is a question for everyone:

What should we do with illegal aliens in the country? Should we make them legal? Should we deport them? Close off the boarder?

We should NEVER close off the boarder to immigrants. I will continue to encourage legal immigrants to come to this country, I believe it helps the economy grow, and also helps improve our image as America. But I am opposed to making illegal aliens in this country LEGAL, simply because there are too many of them. We can't just ignore a problem, and say, "Well, there are too many of them, lets just make them ALL legal, and it'll save a lot of paper work."

If we allow illegals in the country, what comes next? Illegals taking JOBS from U.S. Citzen, where a man who doesn't even officially LIVE in the U.S. CAN get a job, but a man who has spent his entire life here and has worked hard here, CAN'T get a job.

Plus, if we allow illegals in this country, it may not be good in fighting terrorsim. Not all illegals may come from Mexico. A terrorist may come into this country and plan terrorist attacks, and there is no record of him in this country, because he is in this country illegally. How are we expected to fight hard against terrorism if we allow illegals in  this country, and let them attain a legal status.

If you want to come and live in this country, fine, I encourage you to come here, it's a great country to live. You should apply for U.S. citizenship. But if you come here, and we have NO record of you because you are illegally living here, then it is best that we find all illegals, and deport them back to their home country.
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