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Albus Dumbledore
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« on: June 21, 2008, 11:30:57 AM »

Olmert should be tried and executed for crimes against humanity along with the rest of the Knesset and every officer in Israel's military.
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Albus Dumbledore
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2008, 02:14:44 PM »

Yep 100% seriously. They condone imperialism of the worst and most brutal kind by stealing 3/4 of Palestine. I see no efforts to integrate or assimilate the palestinians beyond a few collaborators(the druze/bedouin). However, I see many efforts to exclude, intimidate and control. Basically, they want to intimidate the surviving palestinians into becoming a cowed serf class who'll work gratefully for their masters.
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Albus Dumbledore
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2008, 02:25:44 PM »

I'm going to address the zionist talking points you're going on about. The existence of Israel is a current status quo point for the next 20-30 years thanks to AIPAC and campaign contributions from people living in the diamond district of NYC or long island so that's settled. Now onto your points!

1 And they were heroes in the cause of opposing apartheid and imperialism. Israel could have become a noble state and a good example for the middle east instead of being an increasingly theocratic sham democracy(well herrenvolk democracy like pre-1990s south africa or the US south before the 1960s) had they decided to do the right thing.
2 Well if you're going to be given second class citizenship at best of course one wouldn't be too happy about it. Israel is still quite dickish and harsh towards it's arab citizens. Note that I just talk about the citizens and not the oppressed people in Gaza or the west bank.
3 Only partially integrating a few collaborators isn't the same as extending equal rights to all and you know it. If Israel is to become a decent nation and end it's decades of darkness it needs to establish a completely secular state, give the arabs in the west bank+gaza full citizenship, establish real civil liberties, dismantle it's WMD, abolish the draft and stand down on it's foreign policy. Basically, it has to act like a full member of the community of nations and not a rogue state.
4 Lunatics? So you're going to call people who are the moral equivalents of the ANC lunatics now. I can see it now in an ATL where both of us were born 20 years early and the internet was around in the 1980s you posting long screeds defending P.W. Botha's regime.
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Albus Dumbledore
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 02:43:26 PM »

So you're saying it's okay for Israel to have WMD but not arab nations. Care to explain why in public? Is it race? Religion?
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Albus Dumbledore
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2008, 03:15:24 PM »

And? Israel would be paying the price for it's decades of militarism. Actions have consequences.
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Albus Dumbledore
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2008, 03:27:24 PM »

Because Israel represses the Palestinians and attempts to intimidate it's neighbors.
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Albus Dumbledore
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2008, 03:47:05 PM »

They were trying to chase out the palestinians and blatantly ignore partition so yes.
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Albus Dumbledore
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2008, 04:03:57 PM »

Calling wanting to not be expelled from their homes greedy? Wow. Now that's an epic example of being biased.
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Albus Dumbledore
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2008, 04:09:21 PM »

The zionist settlers didn't deserve anything. The last time I checked it was germans who did the holocaust and not arabs. Or are arab land titles worth less because of genetic inferiority?
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Albus Dumbledore
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2008, 09:17:12 PM »

But the palestinians are not White unlike jews so it's perfectly kosher to steal their land. Don't you read your AIPAC handouts?
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