Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread

[NOVA Green]

That is not true. The centrist think tanks know Bernie is the only candidate who can get a Medicare for all or some sort of that legislation passed & are worried about it.

Lmao.

The "centrists" (whatever the hell that means these days) don't want Sanders because they think he would blow the election. His campaign is being run by morons and that what spooks them.

They aren't scared of Bernie getting MFA passed. They know that is DOA given how the Senate is made up.

"Oh it's too hard, we give up" is an approach Democrats took for 8 years under Obama. Every time he gave Republicans a little bit of ground, they lurched rightward. I mean, isn't Obamacare a right-wing policy originally developed as the counter to universal healthcare in the 1990s?

Meeting Republicans halfway will not change a damn thing. If there's one thing Democrats should've learnt from Republicans by now, it's that if you start out from a more extreme negotiating position, you're more likely to get more of what you want in the final bill.

Love your Tom Baker sig!

Aside from all that, part of the reason me and my wife (Working-Class Oregonians) have Bernie set on an Auto $27/Month Payment is because we realize that regardless of win or lose, the economic platforms when it comes to minimum wage and Health Care Reform, will not only push the party towards the Left, but at the end of the day, pay off when it comes to whatever Democratic Candidate becomes the eventual nominee, when it comes to our Household bottom line, despite how much we liked and agreed with Obama when he was POTUS fighting against PUB obstructionism....

[NOVA Green]

Saw Bernie on MSNBC Tonight on the Rachel Maddow show....

Generally boiler-plate Bernie, but one of his first appearances on the show in quite some time, and decent questions regarding '16 vs '20 GE and DEM Primaries....

"Take it to Kentucky and Mississippi" stood out a bit on a GE question, and essentially taking credit (IMHO legitimately) for the adoption of at least the concept if not the actual policy positions of Bernie on fundamental issues such as Health Care Policy, Education Policy, etc....

Key thing about MSNBC is that because such a high % of the viewers tend towards a "Liberal Democrat" perspective (Especially on Prime Time), you run into a scenario where the "influence makers" that follow politics more regularly will chat with their friends, family, co-workers, maybe even church members.....

MSNBC will be seeing a ton more DEM Prim candidates on their Prime Time slot over the next 6+ Months, but still thought it relevant since it is a Media outlet that at least on their regular lineup tends to skew heavily Liberal....

[NOVA Green]

LMAO!!!
What a whiny little b****.

https://twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/1161038562273484801

Landslide Lyndon... come on man, this isn't a 2016 rerun DEM PRIM.

It's heated up because the Washington Post are standing by their reporters (Just saw one of them earlier tonight on MSNBC) and maybe they are feeling like they are getting hit by two sides.

Amazon is still a big deal, especially in Democratic Party strongholds such as Seattle, where there has been massive community resistance against Amazon basically taking over roughly 50% of the Corporate Real Estate Market in Downtown Seattle, massively jacking up the the cost for virtually any other companies looking to lease smaller amounts of office space within the City.

It is also an issue in NYC, where Amazon abruptly pulled out of negotiations for a planned NYC HQ in Queens, NY.

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/seven-negotiation-lessons-from-amazon-s-hq-disaster-in-queens

Additionally, we have another issue.....

With the dramatic shift on online retailing where Amazon is essentially the "Top Dog", we see a massive rise in FCs (Fulfillment Centers), as well as the traditional model of DCs (Distribution Centers),

Warehouse Work is rough setting, now that every single worker's production is measured upon "prod", where your online scanners track "units of production by worker" with no concept of safety....

There is currently in the United States a massive issue when it comes to exploitation of workers in these types of fulfillment centers (FCs), where we might start our 6 AM 12 Hour shift with a safety gig, and the Swing Shift will have their equivalent.

Sure, now I am losing employees for new Amazon FC Centers that pay in Oregon starting $15/Hr, recruiting a new generation of younger workers without much job experience, not understanding the working conditions in these facilities.

So although this might sound odd, Bernie Sanders is attuned to the working conditions in these places (Where I worked briefly for three Months after I was laid off from a professional job), and although Amazon might sound awesome (We buy their Amazon.prime, we shop in their online marketplaces), at the end of the day, the cost of cheaper goods are born on the backs of the Warehouse Workers of America....

I tried to bring an ILWU Union Local into a DC/FC and got laid off within three Months as a direct hire.....

Amazon going off on the WP might seem odd, but going off against Amazon is not....



http://archive.ilwu.org/?page_id=2518

[NOVA Green]

Hillary supporters essentially elected Trump by knowingly supporting an unelectable candidate whose policies caused millions to die.

In a way they are closet racists or atleast responsible for most of Trump's policies. At the very least they should apologize for enabling murder & racism.

Shadows dude--- maybe you need to take chill pill, or a puff of a "J", maybe sip a brew.

HRC supporters are NOT responsible for whatever Trump policy positions you disagree with.

Sure, perhaps Bernie might well have been a better DEM candidate against Trump in '16 (IMHO would have been the case).

I changed my avatar from DEM > SOC after the '16 GE results, and said I wouldn't change it back until a DEM nominated a DEM PRES candidate that would actually stand up for working-class, and anti-militarist, and Green issues.

My avatar has not changed since shortly after the '16 GE.....

Way back in Germany in the 1970s, there was a phrase coined by the West German student activist Rudi Dutschke... "The Long March Through the Institutions".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudi_Dutschke

The Democratic Party took a massive turn towards the Right in the early 1990s, as part of a triangulation to deal with all of the insanity caused by the Reagan Era....

These times are now forgotten, and we need to unite and share the same pipe, when it comes to the rise of extremist White Supremacist Violence, and still stay true to a progressive agenda that delivers the economic goods to the American public, keeps us out of crazy elective wars overseas, stays vigilant against foreign adversaries attempting to exploit our weaknesses, and provide legal protection for all Americans regardless of race, ethnicity, country of origin.... not to mention holding the Religious Right in check when it comes to LGBTQ equality and Female Reproductive Rights....