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NOVA Green
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« on: July 06, 2017, 11:33:49 PM »

Apologies if this topic has been posted elsewhere....

Oregon is set to codify reproduction rights that thus far no other state in the US has done.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/oregon-approves-measure-requiring-insurers-cover-abortion-48462214

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/07/06/oregon_passes_sweeping_law_enshrining_abortion_rights_and_funding_for_all.html

Needless to say, the Governor will most likely sign the bill into law, and it will have no impact whatsoever in terms of partisan electoral politics within the State, where Female reproductive rights have the highest level support of just about any other state in the Union.

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2017, 11:19:18 PM »

Right now, somewhere in the United States, ExtremeRepublican's head is literally exploding.

This is the first I have seen about this awful news.  I would strongly consider avoiding all travel to the state of Oregon due to sales tax, etc. directly funding abortion (not that I had any plans to go there anyway).  If the left can boycott states, we should do so as well!
We don't have sales taxes in Oregon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_tax#In_the_United_States
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This is an established fact, of which all Oregonian's are quite proud actually... Remember hearing about this when I was a young kid almost 40 years back.

Every time we would drive up the road to Washington State, in the counties across the border, you used to be able to get a waiver on the Washington State sales tax if you presented ID.

Oregon actually has one of the most progressive taxation systems in the US.... When I moved out to Texas some 6 years ago was initially stoked that there wasn't a personal income tax (Like Tennessee) and then ended up realizing I was paying more in taxes for less services because of their high sales tax and fees....

Anyways--- ExtremeRepublican boycotting a state because of their revenue system is absurd in the extreme (Although certainly I understand the reasons for your objections to this particular bill that will likely become law in the near future).

Heck--- if I wanted to boycott states solely because of their voting habits and government policy, I never would have moved to Texas!

Trust me--- come out here, spend some time, spend some money, and I guarantee that there are plenty of places in Oregon where you will feel right at home! Spent a few years with a friend living in an off-campus Christian Frat some 15 years back in a Liberal College City.... saw the fliers on the fridge with graphic images of the Holocaust and Factory Farm facilities that were part of the movement propaganda at the time. They were all great guys, and we agreed on tons of issues from the War in Iraq to Climate Change, and disagreed on a few (But not on LGBTQ Equality). They weren't very good poker players however, they tended to give away their tells.... Wink

My sincere apologies for derailing my own thread, but actually this is quite a refreshing discussion, that I'll go back to lurk mode, and work on a few County level maps of Oregon regarding two Anti-Abortion/ Anti-Choice measures that were voted on by the citizens of Oregon back in the late '80s/ early '90s.

Something tells me that even in rural counties in Oregon, public opinion hasn't shifted towards the Anti-Abortion/Anti-Choice/Protection of Unborn Children perspective....

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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2017, 12:56:01 AM »

Ok--- Map #1: Oregon Ballot Initiative #8: Prohibit Abortion With Three Exceptions (1990)

https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Prohibition_of_Abortion_and_Exceptions,_Measure_8_(1990)



Dark Red are counties that voted 70%+ Against
Dark Purple: 65-69% Against
Light Purple: 60-64% Against
Yellow: 55-59% Against



ok--- maybe there were a ton of Anti-Abortion folks that moved into the State in various counties between '90 and '16. One might make an argument that a growing Latino population in many counties in Oregon, especially the Mid-Valley and parts of Eastern Oregon somehow shifted the dynamics in various counties....

Is it plausible that there may have been a few shifts in the margins in various counties in Oregon since '90? Absolutely. Is it realistic to believe that these shifts have benefited to perspective that all Abortions should be banned with 3 exceptions? Absolutely Not.

Even if were to make the mental leap and somehow assume that the growing Latino voting population of Oregon would support an effective ban on Abortions, which I find not only a dubious concept in the extreme, but also stereotyping of Mexican-American and Central-American Citizens of Oregon, the trend would likely be much more heavily outweighed by immigration to Oregon from neighboring countries (Such as California).... Wink

Ok--- Map #2: Ballot Measure #10: Parental Notification of Minor Abortions (1990)

Yes 48%- No 52%

https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Notice_to_Minor%E2%80%99s_Parents_Before_an_Abortion,_Measure_10_(1990)

So, here you have Oregonians narrowly rejecting a measure that would have required parents be notified if their child chose an abortion for whatever reasons....

Dark Blue- 70% Yes (Malheur)
Violet- 60% Yes (Douglas)
Sky Blue- 55-59% Yes
Green: 50-54 % Yes
Yellow: 50-54% No
Fuscia: 55-59% No
Red: 60+% No




There was a similar measure proposed in 2006.... here is a link to the map

Yes 45%- No 55%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Ballot_Measure_43_(2006)

Now, I don't have the county level data on my fingertips, but between '90 and '06 Oregonians opinions on Abortion, even as emotional and controversial subject such as parental notification appears to have shifted significantly.

Anyways--- just wanted to pull up some maps on how Oregonians have voted historically on Abortion related legislation, and also to reinforce my perspective as to why proposed bill isn't an electoral liability from an "Abortion Rights/ Protection of Unborn Perspective".

If anything there might be some hits on the funding issue, as Old Skool mentioned in some of the 'burbs of PDX, Salem, and Eugene, but I really don't see Republicans winning any statewide election on this, let alone flipping control of the State House or Senate..... Time will tell, but there are still some Liberal/Moderate Pubs left in heavily Democratic districts that can be flipped as well if the Oregon Pubs overreact on this issue....

IMHO.



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