Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign

[NOVA Green]

So, just got offered another job today, after having previously accepted another job offer last week...

Now I need to choose which of the manufacturing jobs I want to go with...

One pays significantly better, is closer, but has longer and odd shifts and is harder factory work---- the other pays less, is a 20 minute commute, and is a bit more of an assembly job, with greater potential for internal promotion down the line.

Which job do I go with

You might evaluate it based on future outcomes. For example, what would your likely position and salary look like in 2 years? 5 years? Is the lower paying job today likely to overtake the other one on the time scale of a couple of years? Is either job likely to leave you out of it in a few years due to company performance or your satisfaction level?

Thanks Muon!

That reminds me of one of my Dad's favorite sayings: "Planning is understanding and assessing the futurity of current decisions".

The difficult part for me is trying to assess either as long-term career decisions.

As an individual, who literally went from the Mailroom to a key Manager in a flagship corporate business services account in 20 years, until I was recently laid off as part of a major corporate cost-reduction initiative, it's a bit hard to wrap my brain around the concept of moving into a Management position in a Manufacturing setting (Further down the line).

There are some obvious differences when it comes to the technical and educational background required between these various industries.

Ultimately both jobs are risky in a Medium term sense, if one were to look at the overall decline of Manufacturing in America over the past few decades.

Both companies are dependent upon the demand from their immediate customers, in the case of the higher paying job there is a large share of Government contracts related to DoD activities, which in theory might be a safer bet considering Dod Procurement activities. In the case of the latter, it is for a contractor for one the largest Global Tech companies, and having spent several decades providing business services for that client, I know well how fickle these companies can be when it comes to shutting down entire production lines and shifting operations elsewhere, where they have essential corporate tax havens.

That being said, it does get me back into a Facility where I have extensive experience (15 years), and would have the ability to network down the line to get a job with another supplier (Or even as a direct hire).

So--- still working it through in my mind, and by virtue of just thinking it out and typing through the response, is a helpful exercise.

Much appreciated Sir!!!!

[NOVA Green]

Eagerly awaiting the Solar Eclipse tomorrow AM, as one of the first parts of the US to view the Eclipse in the path of totality.

Although they shut down my manufacturing line, so I don't need to work Monday but instead we make up hours on Friday, I still can't sleep in, because I need to wake up early, enjoy a few libations while listening to Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon", stroll out to my back patio, put on the special sun glasses, and chill for an hour or so, gradually watching the Eclipse happen.

Contrary to local media hype, it doesn't appear that the Medium sized Mill town that I live in is being overrun with tourists. Gas appears to be prevalant, and cell phone service has not ceased.

Hopefully the glut of tourists will inject some $$$ into the local economy, and they will recommend visiting Oregon to friends and family members, but not move here permanently, since we already have enough issues with gentrification and jacked up cost of living, as it is.....

So for anyone not on "The Path of Totality" hopefully you get a chance to enjoy the show, although unfortunately God with his wicked sense of humor appears to have punished Charlottesville on the big day....

[NOVA Green]

Eagerly awaiting the Solar Eclipse tomorrow AM, as one of the first parts of the US to view the Eclipse in the path of totality.

Although they shut down my manufacturing line, so I don't need to work Monday but instead we make up hours on Friday, I still can't sleep in, because I need to wake up early, enjoy a few libations while listening to Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon", stroll out to my back patio, put on the special sun glasses, and chill for an hour or so, gradually watching the Eclipse happen.

Contrary to local media hype, it doesn't appear that the Medium sized Mill town that I live in is being overrun with tourists. Gas appears to be prevalant, and cell phone service has not ceased.

Hopefully the glut of tourists will inject some $$$ into the local economy, and they will recommend visiting Oregon to friends and family members, but not move here permanently, since we already have enough issues with gentrification and jacked up cost of living, as it is.....

So for anyone not on "The Path of Totality" hopefully you get a chance to enjoy the show, although unfortunately God with his wicked sense of humor appears to have punished Charlottesville on the big day....

We are getting totality here too.  The sun is out and is expected to stay out long enough to see this eclipse.  The conditions aren't really perfect, though, as heat indicies will likely be in triple-digits this afternoon, though it will cool off some during the eclipse itself.  Partiality begins in about an hour and a half, with totality in just over three hours.  I'm in Nashville, and we are certainly used to handling big crouds (we had 250,000 people downtown in June when the Stanley Cup collided with CMA Fest and again in July for the nation's largest 4th of July fireworks), so everything is running pretty much normally.  I'm about to head off to the AAA baseball stadium for a watch party and may try to take in a game afterwards.

Awesome--- was thinking about you earlier in the day after "totality" had based Oregon, etc, and I pull up some photos of the Eclipse elsewhere and saw giant photos of people in Memphis celebrating totality, and wondered "Is Extreme Republican" checking this out?    ....

The two minutes watching total eclipse in person were pretty damn amazing, if I must say so....

How did your eclipse Party work out down there? Hopefully not too much cloud action.... saw some cool photos from Memphis and there was a bit of cloud cover, but it seemed like overall weather pretty much cooperated down there....

[NOVA Green]

Eagerly awaiting the Solar Eclipse tomorrow AM, as one of the first parts of the US to view the Eclipse in the path of totality.

Although they shut down my manufacturing line, so I don't need to work Monday but instead we make up hours on Friday, I still can't sleep in, because I need to wake up early, enjoy a few libations while listening to Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon", stroll out to my back patio, put on the special sun glasses, and chill for an hour or so, gradually watching the Eclipse happen.

Contrary to local media hype, it doesn't appear that the Medium sized Mill town that I live in is being overrun with tourists. Gas appears to be prevalant, and cell phone service has not ceased.

Hopefully the glut of tourists will inject some $$$ into the local economy, and they will recommend visiting Oregon to friends and family members, but not move here permanently, since we already have enough issues with gentrification and jacked up cost of living, as it is.....

So for anyone not on "The Path of Totality" hopefully you get a chance to enjoy the show, although unfortunately God with his wicked sense of humor appears to have punished Charlottesville on the big day....

We are getting totality here too.  The sun is out and is expected to stay out long enough to see this eclipse.  The conditions aren't really perfect, though, as heat indicies will likely be in triple-digits this afternoon, though it will cool off some during the eclipse itself.  Partiality begins in about an hour and a half, with totality in just over three hours.  I'm in Nashville, and we are certainly used to handling big crouds (we had 250,000 people downtown in June when the Stanley Cup collided with CMA Fest and again in July for the nation's largest 4th of July fireworks), so everything is running pretty much normally.  I'm about to head off to the AAA baseball stadium for a watch party and may try to take in a game afterwards.

Awesome--- was thinking about you earlier in the day after "totality" had based Oregon, etc, and I pull up some photos of the Eclipse elsewhere and saw giant photos of people in Memphis celebrating totality, and wondered "Is Extreme Republican" checking this out?    ....

The two minutes watching total eclipse in person were pretty damn amazing, if I must say so....

How did your eclipse Party work out down there? Hopefully not too much cloud action.... saw some cool photos from Memphis and there was a bit of cloud cover, but it seemed like overall weather pretty much cooperated down there....

I wound up changing my mind and getting lunch near where I was and then watching it here (2-3 miles away from downtown).  It turns out that that was a really good decision because the skies were perfectly clear for the entire thing here (no interference at all), while the "Lower Broadway" area was clear for the lead-up but had a cloud block totality.  Had I gone to the stadium (just north of that Lower Broadway area), I would have seen the very tail end of totality with the cloud moving just in time.  I got really lucky to stay here and have no clouds in the area of the sun for the partial or total phases.

Really cool--- Local radio stations were running Pink Floyd's "Dark Side" album on continuous loop, many local large employers shut down manufacturing lines for the day, and Oregon had a huge injection of out of state residents purchasing goods and services in a Non-Sales Tax state....

Amazed that there aren't more Atlas posters that have commented about experiencing "totality", but man that was amazing experience. and anyone that says you need drugs or drinks to enjot the experience is obviously completely out of their minds.