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« on: August 22, 2016, 04:40:11 PM »
« edited: August 22, 2016, 04:41:58 PM by NOVA Green »

Donald Trump cancels his fundraiser in Portland, Oregon after top donors pull out, as well as a public rally...

http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/08/20/donald-trump-dumps-portland-cancelling-his-aug-31-fundraiser-and-rally/

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2016, 04:53:37 PM »

Quote from article:

"First, Donald J. Trump lost his Portland donors. Now he's cancelling his Portland fundraiser.

Trump's campaign director tells Oregon Public Broadcasting that he is cancelling his Aug. 31 visit to Portland—where the Republican presidential nominee had planned to hold a private fundraiser and public rally.

Jacob Daniels, Trump's Oregon campaign director, told OPB that Trump cancelled the event because he wants to tour the flooding in Louisiana. But the candidate's Aug. 30 fundraiser in Seattle is still on—and its organizer, former Washington state Sen. Don Benton, sent out a new invitation this morning.

WW reported two weeks ago that the hosts of that Seattle event included three prominent Portland businessmen: Gordon Sondland, Peter Stott, and Bashir Wali.

When their names became public, all three Portlanders disavowed Trump—and the Pacific Northwest's biggest Mitt Romney fundraiser, David Nierenberg, endorsed Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The Trump campaign last week hinted it was abandoning plans to rally in Portland, saying it was also considering locations in Southern and Eastern Oregon."
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2016, 04:55:35 PM »
« Edited: August 22, 2016, 05:08:05 PM by NOVA Green »

This is the 3rd and 4th event he's canceled today.

Something going on there.... is it pulling out of fundraisers in multiple locations because of lack of deep pocket donors, or some type of campaign attempted reboot or shift?

Wouldn't be surprised to see him cancel the upcoming Seattle event as well---- the last one was cancelled because of expected massive demonstrations.

Edited: After reviewing and realizing that my sentence structure was completely off.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2016, 05:14:41 PM »

Good call. Trump should avoid the heavily left cities after disrupters assaulted and spit on donors in Minneapolis last week at an event that wasn't even public. The violent protesters are just looking for an opportunity to make a scene.

Well, I'm not familiar with that incident, and certainly don't condone any type of physical violence including spitting on donors, but I will note that Trump has held events in many left-leaning cities without any type of major incidence.

For example, Eugene Oregon back in May, which is a well known bastion of activist politics going back to the Student Movement of the 1960s where there were demonstrators that prepared for several days ahead of time, went through non-violence civil disobedience training, and actually fairly civil conversations between Trump supporters and Anti-Trump demonstrators outside the event.

If Trump wants to live in a foxhole and avoid entire cities and regions of the country where he is extremely unpopular so be it, but that's not a very effective strategy when you are running for President of the entire United States of America.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2016, 05:29:22 PM »

This is the 3rd and 4th event he's canceled today.
Schedules change. With Trump mainly based in NY, it takes a lot more effort to do a rally in Oregon or Nevada than a close state on or near the East Coast.

I am sure that they will reschedule at the right time.

So your opinion is that it is allocation of scare resources (Trump's time) and more regarding maximizing fundraising than internals in some of these Western States or an attempt to control optics  in the event of demonstrations?

I don't really have a fixed opinion on this yet, but it does seem strange pulling out right after major Republican donors basically dump their party's candidate.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2016, 05:32:28 PM »


Many people are saying that, many many smart people. I don't know, who knows, but I'm just hearing a lot from some very smart good people that it may be that.

(Laughs loudly in silence)---- sounds like something that he might well say and as I reread am hearing him say those exact lines.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2016, 05:41:32 PM »
« Edited: August 22, 2016, 06:09:30 PM by NOVA Green »

This is the 3rd and 4th event he's canceled today.
Schedules change. With Trump mainly based in NY, it takes a lot more effort to do a rally in Oregon or Nevada than a close state on or near the East Coast.

I am sure that they will reschedule at the right time.

It's expensive to fly all the way out there, and Donnie looks to be getting close to broke.  Maybe a 60 day bicycle campaign across WV will fit his budget.

A modern day variant on a "whistle-stop tour"?

I would definitely suggest starting in flatter terrain and in swing states. Wink

Edited: Deleted original facetious comments, since there is a real question as to why Trump has been changing his schedule so dramatically over the past few days since upheavals in his core campaign team, and I was hoping the thread could have a more serious discussion as to why this recent shift.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2016, 06:17:59 PM »

This is the 3rd and 4th event he's canceled today.
Schedules change. With Trump mainly based in NY, it takes a lot more effort to do a rally in Oregon or Nevada than a close state on or near the East Coast.

I am sure that they will reschedule at the right time.

So your opinion is that it is allocation of scare resources (Trump's time) and more regarding maximizing fundraising than internals in some of these Western States or an attempt to control optics  in the event of demonstrations?

I don't really have a fixed opinion on this yet, but it does seem strange pulling out right after major Republican donors basically dump their party's candidate.
They don't lead in Oregon. They can go out there for money if they want to although it may not be worth it.

Trump, as of now, is scheduled for Akron (today), Austin (tomorrow), Tampa and Jackson, MS (on Wednesday). I think they were going to do a West Coast swing with a policy speech in Vegas then go through Washington State and Oregon. That doesn't make as much sense if you take Vegas out of the mix.

I am sure they'll reassess and figure out the next best time to head out West or perhaps send Pence to do some of those fundraisers. It's not like Trump has a chance in Oregon or Washington to be quite honest.

It's obviously not health-related at this point, if it were, Trump wouldn't be in Ohio tonight.

That sounds like a very rationale explanation for this recent change in schedule....

My assumption is that the remarks regarding Trump's health were more an attempt to play on his recent insinuations regarding Hillary's health, rather than any actual statements based on fact.

So basically, at this point you're thinking the PacNW is more of a place to potentially bag some dollars if it works into a several day swing, and that the campaign is basically ceding the NW to Clinton without undercutting those supporters within the region?

Pence would probably be a better fit with many West Coast deep-pocket donors, since it is less likely to cause negative perceptions with their fellow business partners, and is not associated with what out here is an extremely toxic brand, even among Republican voters.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2016, 06:38:43 PM »

TRUMP has no chance to win Oregon, so why even campaign there?

Why did he campaign in Connecticut?
Why did he send Pence to campaign in New Mexico?

Well in all fairness to Trump, and I suspect your rhetorical question was intended at underlining a fundamental characteristic of modern American political campaigns, and for the counterpoint, why would Hillary be going to places like NYC, LA, and the SFC when both NY and CA are at this point definitely locked down for her campaign?

So yes, as you implied, both campaigns will devote resources into fundraising activities even in "safe states" rather than focus exclusively into swing states or head-fakes of states where polling is tighter than expected.

All this talk is making me hungry to download the latest version of "Presidents Forever" which I haven't played since the '08 elections. Wink
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2016, 07:17:27 PM »

Good move he can't win there, and he shouldn't be campaigning in Texas and Mississippi he can fundraise but he can hold rallies in Pensacola and Las Vegas instead

The Vegas rally has been cancelled
I know, I was just giving examples of thing he can do instead.

Not very knowledgeable on Dem/Rep fundraising big $$$ donations by state/Metro areas, so it would definitely be interesting if our fellow Dem/Rep/Indy/3rd Party avatars with more experience have any data regarding historical large dollar donations by state/metro areas for the past four election cycles.

It certainly does make sense for both campaigns to schedule events in various areas during a GE campaign explicitly for the purpose of raising money for their campaign and DNC/RNC $$$, while simultaneously scheduling events (large rallies) designed to get free and generally favorable local media coverage within swing states.

So, yes both large rallies in swing states combined with fundraising efforts certainly makes sense.

Now if Trump is in TX and MS it sounds like the campaign might be more into a "dialing for dollars" mode to try to catch-up on fundraising to be able to compete with Hillary in the "Air War", where at this time it appears objectively that she has a significant advantage.

Or?Huh
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