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GeneralMacArthur
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« on: February 23, 2024, 04:24:55 PM »

It's the best they can do.

Israel will not allow Gaza to build an army to kill Jews.  That much is obvious.

For this reason, Israel must prevent Gazans from organizing into an army, from building military infrastructure, and from acquiring weapons.  This requires a physical presence in Gaza.

Obviously the international community is going to bitch and moan and say that Israel actually should leave Gaza alone and let the Palestinians pinky promise never again to reform Hamas (just like in 2005).  The pressure means Israel can't just annex Gaza and stay there indefinitely.  So instead what they need to do is create a situation where even after they leave, the odds of Hamas 2.0 are as low as possible.

How do you do this?  By enacting a cultural shift.  Get rid of all the schoolbooks that say Jews literally invented dying just to kill Arabs.  Deradicalize, deradicalize, deradicalize.  And try to present yourselves as the good guys as much as possible.  Naturally this is difficult when there will be constant attempts to form terrorist bands and kill Jews.  But you do the best you can.

I don't really see any other way around this unless the international community is willing to step in and help out.

Gaza is too much of a mess for Israel to trust the Palestinian Authority to take care of this.
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2024, 11:18:35 PM »

Israel had the opportunity to do that from 1967 until the Unilateral Disengagement in 2005—nearly forty years—and did not do so.

If Israel had really been that bothered by textbooks that reprinted Protocols of the Elders of Zion propaganda, they'd have given them textbooks that didn't say those things instead of forcing Palestinians to rely on Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and other sources for funding, curriculum and materials.

This didn't happen because Israel's preferred option was for there to be antisemitic canards in schoolbooks so that they could complain about the antisemitic canards in schoolbooks and cite them as another excuse for why they can't be expected to come to the negotiating table.

Do you actually believe that Israel encouraged Palestinian children to believe that Jews did 9/11, because they wanted Palestinian children to grow up hating them, so they could use that as an excuse not to come to the negotiating table (which they did come to on numerous occasions over the time period you describe)?  Like seriously, the lengths people have to go to twist themselves in knots to come up with an anti-Israel position.  Israeli textbooks don't teach their kids that Palestinians invented genital herpes or whatever.  Like this absurd, ridiculous, intentionally-manufactured hate only ever goes in one direction.
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GeneralMacArthur
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2024, 03:19:40 PM »

This is a laughable, and essentially just the west bank solution. Where there will be security corridors that will cut up gaza into smaller concentration camps

Comparing the Israeli security state in the West Bank to concentration camps like Auschwitz, Sobibor, Mauthausen or Treblinka is appalling.  It shows that either you don't understand the gravity, scale and horror of the industrialized torture and death machine that was the concentration camp system, or worse, you do understand, and you are using the comparison as an attempt to intentionally downplay the severity of what the Jews suffered so you can attack Israel.

Either way, this is an utterly disgraceful post and you should be ashamed of yourself for writing it.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2024, 04:36:13 PM »
« Edited: February 25, 2024, 06:59:51 PM by YE »

This is a laughable, and essentially just the west bank solution. Where there will be security corridors that will cut up gaza into smaller concentration camps

Comparing the Israeli security state in the West Bank to concentration camps like Auschwitz, Sobibor, Mauthausen or Treblinka is appalling.  It shows that either you don't understand the gravity, scale and horror of the industrialized torture and death machine that was the concentration camp system, or worse, you do understand, and you are using the comparison as an attempt to intentionally downplay the severity of what the Jews suffered so you can attack Israel.

Either way, this is an utterly disgraceful post and you should be ashamed of yourself for writing it.

No actually, you are the one who front-loaded your post with intentionally inflammatory references. The Gazan's have now been concentrated into extremely small 'humanitarian zones' with completely inadequate facilities and Netanyahu has now declared his intent to make this a permanent situation if he gets his way by making the meager land they have had to live on the last 50 something years into an IDF military outpost.

And coming from someone like you? Lmao Gmac, I have nothing but revulsion for you and your opinions so anything you are calling out as 'disgraceful' is quite fine with me.

Don't try to weasel out of what you wrote by saying "lol well they are concentrated in a small area so it's technically a concentration camp."  You know exactly what you were writing.

Do the towns in the West Bank have gas chambers where prisoners are systematically slaughtered en masse?
Do they have big burn pits and ovens where prisoners are forced to cremate and dispose of the bodies of their dead friends and family?
Are prisoners used for forced labor in the freezing winter on starvation rations until they drop dead?
Are prisoners routinely tortured, raped and murdered for fun by their guards?
Most of all, are the Palestinian towns in the West Bank part of a giant, industrialized system specifically designed to exterminate an entire race of people?

It's beyond disgraceful to make such a comparison.  Totally shameful and really sick.

Also if you want to try and downplay the tragedy of the Holocaust to antagonize me because you hate me so much, that really says a lot about you, doesn't it?  Don't worry, I don't particular care whether a Marianne Williamson supporter is revulsed by me or not.
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