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GeneralMacArthur
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« on: September 18, 2020, 09:10:38 PM »

What I would like to see is Democrats threatening to go full nuclear unless Republicans agree to some constitutional amendments to enshrine the basic principles of our democracy that have been violated over the last decade.  Republicans have basically dropped the MOAB so nuclear is all we have left.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2020, 09:16:51 PM »

I don't support packing the courts because it'll just become power grabs that escalate every cycle.

The Republicans already started the unconstitutional power grabs.  How much further do they need to go before we start playing the same game?
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2020, 11:52:31 PM »

I don't support packing the courts because it'll just become power grabs that escalate every cycle.

The Republicans already started the unconstitutional power grabs.  How much further do they need to go before we start playing the same game?
This. I don't understand Democrats and their obsession with letting Republicans walk all over them. If Republicans can just shamelessly violate traditions, then why can't Democrats? Why do Democrats need to get rid of good politicians like Al Franken for something that wasn't even a serious sexual harassment and happened a long time ago while Republicans can continuously elect cheaters and sexual assaulters with no reprecussions? Why can't Democrats "play dirty" and do stuff like DC statehood and adding extra Justices when Republicans can get away with saying a Justice shouldn't be nominated during an election year and then shamelessly try to nominate a Justice a month before an election?

We'd like to live in a world where nobody has to play dirty.  We'd like to return to the world of the 60s and 70s and 80s where the country (mostly) functioned like it was supposed to, with compromise and persuasion ruling the day, instead of sinking into a situation where both sides are just trying to out-cheat the other.

Unfortunately, the Republicans leave us no choice.  They're going to take permanent control of the Judicial Branch with this pick and they've telegraphed loud and clear through the Trump administration they intend to abuse that power to the greatest extent possible.  There is no going back.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2020, 04:01:47 AM »

... He said, while advocating for an authoritarian subversion of the rule of law, all to get revenge on the segment of the population he despises.

The Republicans are subverting the rule of law as we speak.  What is our other option?  Please tell us, o wise one, what we are supposed to do to stop it.

There's no "revenge" here.  Court-packing and other similar proposals are necessary last-resort options to combat the Republican Party's absolute determination to impose permanent minority rule on the rest of the country and dismantle the constitutional balance of powers that has been the lifeblood of our democracy for centuries.

What the Republican Party is doing is completely indefensible and extremely dangerous.  Should we just lie down and let it happen?  Forget all the rules, forget all the norms, Trump can do whatever he wants with zero checks on his authority, Mitch McConnell can sabotage every knob and lever of government so only Republicans are able to rule, every single institution is hyper-politicized and rigged to protect Republican dominance, and they can get away with it all with absolute impunity because heaven forbid the Democrats should do anything that would subvert the rule of law?  There is no rule of law!. Trump and Mitch have spent the last four years burning every last one of those bridges.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2020, 11:05:27 AM »

The GOP started the destruction of America. If you choose to finish it, the responsibility will be yours as well. Have fun.

If we don't finish it, the Republicans will.  Unless you think that this is the end and they're just going to let everything go back to normal now that they've won and definitely won't ever cheat again.
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