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Ronnie
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« on: July 16, 2016, 09:26:53 PM »
« edited: July 16, 2016, 09:39:08 PM by Ronnie »

We already have a one-nation conservative party in the United States: it's called the Democratic Party.  Really, only the Bernie wing of the party wouldn't be virtually interchangeable with, say, much of the Torie Party in the UK.
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Ronnie
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2016, 12:42:34 AM »
« Edited: July 17, 2016, 01:40:57 AM by Ronnie »

We already have a one-nation conservative party in the United States: it's called the Democratic Party.  Really, only the Bernie wing of the party wouldn't be virtually interchangeable with, say, much of the Torie Party in the UK.
Oh God leave this nonsense #analysis off Atlas.

What's so nonsensical about what I said?  It was, of course, a little provocative, but I don't think that most Democrats' approach to policy, at least during Obama's administration, has been radically progressive.  Take Obamacare, one of the president's crowning achievements: it significantly expanded coverage, but it did nothing to diminish the role of insurance companies in health care.  I see it as a moderate and incremental reform that wouldn't have been out of place in a "one-nation conservative" government.  In fact, don't forget that Romney signed into law a very similar piece of legislation when he was governor of Massachusetts.

To say that Democrats are Republican-lite would be misleading, but that's only because Pubs have drifted intensely far-right.  Dems are mostly centrists on the broader political spectrum, with only the Sanders wing qualifying as "center-left."
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Ronnie
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2016, 12:26:50 PM »


The Democratic party quite obviously does not seek to create a society based around a natural hierarchy of the classes in which power is concentrated among a benevolent landed elite.

I frankly did not realize that paternalism was a central facet of one-nation Toryism.  That's...odd.

Regardless, I still don't think it's a stretch to say that, aside from the progressive wing, the Democratic Party is pretty pragmatic on most issues.
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