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« on: September 17, 2019, 10:39:28 PM »

https://www.apnews.com/225c52937e4d488ebecf04f0a72b192e

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FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Kentucky Democratic gubernatorial nominee Andy Beshear has won an endorsement from the Kentucky State Fraternal Order of Police.

Beshear has stressed his record as attorney general in his campaign against Republican Gov. Matt Bevin. Beshear says he has worked with law enforcement on his top goals.

Beshear points to his efforts to prosecute child sex offenders, clear the rape kit backlog, combat human trafficking, stop senior scams and battle the drug epidemic.

The Democratic challenger says he’s committed to fully funding pensions for law enforcement officials, and says he’ll fight for policies to keep communities safe.

Bevin’s campaign says the governor’s support for law enforcement has included protecting funding for training and pushing for better pay for officers.

In reviewing candidates, FOP official Drew Fox says conversations focused on pensions, benefits and officers’ safety.

Note that Democrats rarely win endorsements from police unions and that the national Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump in 2016.

This won't make any difference. Beshear is still well on his way to defeat in November. Does anyone really think that Kentucky voters will care about this endorsement?

They care more about the imaginary illegal immigrants from Latin America that will swarm the state if Beshear is elected, as evidenced by Bevin’s effective new ad riling up the racists
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2019, 11:54:55 PM »

https://www.apnews.com/225c52937e4d488ebecf04f0a72b192e

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FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Kentucky Democratic gubernatorial nominee Andy Beshear has won an endorsement from the Kentucky State Fraternal Order of Police.

Beshear has stressed his record as attorney general in his campaign against Republican Gov. Matt Bevin. Beshear says he has worked with law enforcement on his top goals.

Beshear points to his efforts to prosecute child sex offenders, clear the rape kit backlog, combat human trafficking, stop senior scams and battle the drug epidemic.

The Democratic challenger says he’s committed to fully funding pensions for law enforcement officials, and says he’ll fight for policies to keep communities safe.

Bevin’s campaign says the governor’s support for law enforcement has included protecting funding for training and pushing for better pay for officers.

In reviewing candidates, FOP official Drew Fox says conversations focused on pensions, benefits and officers’ safety.

Note that Democrats rarely win endorsements from police unions and that the national Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump in 2016.

This won't make any difference. Beshear is still well on his way to defeat in November. Does anyone really think that Kentucky voters will care about this endorsement?

They care more about the imaginary illegal immigrants from Latin America that will swarm the state if Beshear is elected, as evidenced by Bevin’s effective new ad riling up the racists

Even if quite literally every word you said is true, it’s sad most posters now sound like this in 80% of topics.  This isn’t analysis, regardless of truth.

Go on over to the KY thread. Old School Republican was trying to argue that racism had little to nothing to do with the Republican success in Kentucky in the past decade and then literally the next day Bevin put out a highly racist ad that said Beshear will let the state get overrun with illegals. You can’t make this stuff up lol
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2019, 12:02:01 AM »

https://www.apnews.com/225c52937e4d488ebecf04f0a72b192e

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FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Kentucky Democratic gubernatorial nominee Andy Beshear has won an endorsement from the Kentucky State Fraternal Order of Police.

Beshear has stressed his record as attorney general in his campaign against Republican Gov. Matt Bevin. Beshear says he has worked with law enforcement on his top goals.

Beshear points to his efforts to prosecute child sex offenders, clear the rape kit backlog, combat human trafficking, stop senior scams and battle the drug epidemic.

The Democratic challenger says he’s committed to fully funding pensions for law enforcement officials, and says he’ll fight for policies to keep communities safe.

Bevin’s campaign says the governor’s support for law enforcement has included protecting funding for training and pushing for better pay for officers.

In reviewing candidates, FOP official Drew Fox says conversations focused on pensions, benefits and officers’ safety.

Note that Democrats rarely win endorsements from police unions and that the national Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump in 2016.

This won't make any difference. Beshear is still well on his way to defeat in November. Does anyone really think that Kentucky voters will care about this endorsement?

They care more about the imaginary illegal immigrants from Latin America that will swarm the state if Beshear is elected, as evidenced by Bevin’s effective new ad riling up the racists

Even if quite literally every word you said is true, it’s sad most posters now sound like this in 80% of topics.  This isn’t analysis, regardless of truth.

Go on over to the KY thread. Old School Republican was trying to argue that racism had little to nothing to do with the Republican success in Kentucky in the past decade and then literally the next day Bevin put out a highly racist ad that said Beshear will let the state get overrun with illegals. You can’t make this stuff up lol


I stand by it, the fact is I bet you that ad only probably helps Bevin maybe a little bit. If he wins its cause the KY suburbs are still extremely Republican and the Anti-Coal Direction the Dems have gone in has made the Democrats starting position very weak.





No he’ll win because Republicans know exactly what it is they need to do to win these white aggrieved states: stoke racial resentment and pour gasoline on the fire. It’s worked remarkably well in this part of the country for the past decade, I’ll grant you that
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2019, 12:17:35 AM »

https://www.apnews.com/225c52937e4d488ebecf04f0a72b192e

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FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Kentucky Democratic gubernatorial nominee Andy Beshear has won an endorsement from the Kentucky State Fraternal Order of Police.

Beshear has stressed his record as attorney general in his campaign against Republican Gov. Matt Bevin. Beshear says he has worked with law enforcement on his top goals.

Beshear points to his efforts to prosecute child sex offenders, clear the rape kit backlog, combat human trafficking, stop senior scams and battle the drug epidemic.

The Democratic challenger says he’s committed to fully funding pensions for law enforcement officials, and says he’ll fight for policies to keep communities safe.

Bevin’s campaign says the governor’s support for law enforcement has included protecting funding for training and pushing for better pay for officers.

In reviewing candidates, FOP official Drew Fox says conversations focused on pensions, benefits and officers’ safety.

Note that Democrats rarely win endorsements from police unions and that the national Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump in 2016.

This won't make any difference. Beshear is still well on his way to defeat in November. Does anyone really think that Kentucky voters will care about this endorsement?

They care more about the imaginary illegal immigrants from Latin America that will swarm the state if Beshear is elected, as evidenced by Bevin’s effective new ad riling up the racists

Even if quite literally every word you said is true, it’s sad most posters now sound like this in 80% of topics.  This isn’t analysis, regardless of truth.

Go on over to the KY thread. Old School Republican was trying to argue that racism had little to nothing to do with the Republican success in Kentucky in the past decade and then literally the next day Bevin put out a highly racist ad that said Beshear will let the state get overrun with illegals. You can’t make this stuff up lol


I stand by it, the fact is I bet you that ad only probably helps Bevin maybe a little bit. If he wins its cause the KY suburbs are still extremely Republican and the Anti-Coal Direction the Dems have gone in has made the Democrats starting position very weak.





No he’ll win because Republicans know exactly what it is they need to do to win these white aggrieved states: stoke racial resentment and pour gasoline on the fire. It’s worked remarkably well in this part of the country for the past decade, I’ll grant you that


LMAO , if Appalachia was so racist why did they trend D in the 1970s and 1980s while the Deep South Trended Hard R(It was more D relative to the Nation in 1988 compared to 1968).


Face it they changed because of Coal but because so many Partisan Dem Hacks are butt hurt that that they lost a former solid voting bloc they decide to rationalize it by saying they lost it over the fact those voters were racist.


Why is it so hard to believe voters wont vote for a party that wants to destroy the industry the area they live in relies on.

Even if you are naïve (dare I say stupid?) enough to believe that, only about a third of Kentucky can be classified as Appalachia. How do you explain the rurals in the central and western part of the state voting in ever increasing Trumpingrad numbers, exacerbated when the black man became president?
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2019, 12:27:31 AM »

You did not answer my question at all. Those non-coal parts of Kentucky still zoomed right under Obama, and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to put two and two together. I’m done arguing with you. You are constantly moving goal posts and definitions when the evidence doesn’t support you, and I have little interest in carrying this on further with you.

This will be a fun throwback thread though when Bevin sweeps all the non-coal rural counties as soon as he plasters his racist ads all over the airwaves and Trump has a rally.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2019, 11:50:26 PM »

LMAO , if Appalachia was so racist why did they trend D in the 1970s and 1980s while the Deep South Trended Hard R(It was more D relative to the Nation in 1988 compared to 1968).

The Reagan administration was viewed as anti-union, especially after the crackdown on the air traffic controllers’ strike in 1981. Back then, union membership in Appalachia was quite high so this should easily explain the D trend there at least in that decade. It also explains why Reagan/Bush tended to run well behind their statewide numbers in the Appalachian parts of states like KY, OH, PA and VA.

The point he’s making is worth noting.  Democrats weren’t like *open* about having any “racist” voters in 2012 or 2008 or 1994 or 1980 or any other year.  It’s only once voters leave their team are they appropriately labeled as amoral, subhuman trash, lol.  If their words rang hollow when I was on this site in 2012 or 2004 when I was growing up or 1980 when my parents were watching politics unfold ... what’s the point in listening to them yap about it in every thread now?  If rural Blacks shift 10% Republican in the next ten years, we’ll be reading some of these psychopaths talking about how “Yeah, there USED to be some way-too-religious, under-educated homophobe bumpkins from AL and MS in our party, but that was way back in 2018!  Trends have really accelerated since then.”  I’ll wait until 20xx when the Democratic Party is fully *perfect* to give a shlt about the type of “analysis” that is as intellectually stimulating as “Black voters in Chicago would never vote Republican because they’re an assortment of adjectives I find despicable.”

That elementary BS belongs on other sites, regardless of who’s President.

You’re on Dave Leip’s US Election Atlas Forum. I don’t know what you think you signed up for, but clearly you need to adjust your expectations, lol
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2019, 10:19:46 PM »

Well, 739 posts, it didn’t used to be this bad, so thanks for your contributions.

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2019, 09:42:16 AM »

Incumbents usually win, but Bevin looks like an exception.

Incumbents when considering state elections tend to be favored until they F up massively, at which point the probilities stack up hard against their reelection. If Bevin was in a less-but-still-GOP state, like SC, MO, or IN, we would not be having this 'will-he-won't-he' discussion. The deme who had been nominated would be winning this hypothetical 2019 contest, and everyone would have agree to some sort of deme ranking.

Rick Scott and Paul LePage were pretty unpopular in 2014 and they still won reelection despite being in states less favorable than any of the ones you listed.
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