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« on: September 23, 2004, 05:00:34 PM »
« edited: September 23, 2004, 05:03:33 PM by HockeyDude »

I actually think he's being honest and that's what's hurting him.   First off, he signed a bill giving Bush authority (not a war declaration), and Bush made three promises 1.True coalition  2.finish inspections  3.exhaust all other options.  If Bush did all three, and Saddam still wasn't budging, that's when Kerry thought we should go to war.  Alas, Bush broke all 3 promises, and took us in prematurely and underequipped.  When asked "looking at what has happened, would you still sign the authorization bill" he said yes.  Why?  Cause if he knew what was going to happen, he'd make sure that all 3 of those promises were actually fulfilled.  But if all three of those promises Bush made to Congress he kept, we would've never invaded Iraq.  We would've found no WMD's, no Al Queda connections, no nothing.  You think the American public would still want to go in, knowing none of these threats existed.  Hell no.  Kerry's position is confusing, but I understand it fully.  He would've signed the bill, exhausted the options to prove the lack of a threat, then never go into war.  

As for the $87 billion, Kerry offered Congressionial Republicans a good way to pay for this, rolling back the tax cuts for the rich.  They said no, so Kerry voted no.  I agree with him, that's $87 billion I'm going to be paying for in a few years.  The economy was already bad enough.  Besides, why the hell were we funding troops and getting them equipment...in the middle of the war?  Isn't that something customarily done before you go into battle?  And if Bush had sat down and thought about this invasion a little more, we would've never gotten to the point where the troops needed more funding.  WE HAD NO POST-WAR PLAN!!!  When you go into war, you go ready.  You don't do it half-way, decide in the middle of the fighting, "Oh, they weren't prepared properly!  Let's just conjure up some money and send it over there, so it looks like we care about our troops!  Not that the economy is all that well, but what hell!?  Oh yea, let's make sure we bash the hell out of anyone who opposes this kind of action.  Yea, then we can stay in the White House and invade Iran and North Korea and start WWIII.  GOOD F'IN IDEA!!!"

Anyway.  Kerry is like Jimmy Carter.  He's too good a man to be president.  I am dissapointed he probably wont win, yea, but with no threat of losing his job (he's out in 4 no matter what), I think we'll get a taste of the real GWB, and we wont like it.  
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2004, 05:53:28 PM »

Bush said he'd do three things...yeah, I'll take that.

Problem is, Kerry says he'd still vote for the authorization knowing Bush wouldn't do those things.

Now he's bashing Iraqi prime minister Allawi. Nice job "reaching out to our allies," right?

Cause he's right along with Bush acting as if all well in that country.  
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2004, 05:54:01 PM »

Anyway.  Kerry is like Jimmy Carter.  He's too good a man to be president.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Kerry an admitted war criminal?

No, he rigthly accused Vietnam soldiers of war crimes.  
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2004, 01:51:11 PM »

Anyway.  Kerry is like Jimmy Carter.  He's too good a man to be president.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Kerry an admitted war criminal?

No, he rigthly accused Vietnam soldiers of war crimes.  

Then you'll have to help me read and interpret the following statement.  After all, I'm just a ignorant christian fundamentalist from the South who needs someone like John Kerry to spell things out for me and to keep me safe from terrorists:

"There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down."  (John Kerry, April 18, 1971)

He was ordered to.  It's not like he decided to sneak out one night.  
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