Italian Elections and Politics 2022 - Our Time to Schlein

[MaxQue]

Looks like Lega is behind in Tuscany in exit polls.  Oh well, I was hoping they could filip this one

"Scratch a libertarian..."

Relieving to see Tuscany leaning towards keeping in its leftist traditions. Fingers crossed for Puglia.

"...and find a tradcath"

(yesterday a friend of mine sent me an article according to which Ceccardi hosted a wake by an anti-gay tradcath group and was accused of not registering civil unions during her term as mayor)

Fingers crossed!!!

...who the hell has an ideology-specific wake

Never mind, I digress. First results trickling in from Veneto and it looks like a real ZAIASLIDE.

Tradcats do. They refuse the Vatican II reforms and so, it's still all said in Latin.

[MaxQue]

Okay I really don't get the argument for "no" on the referendum. Anything more than 300 representatives or so seems absurd. What's the point of having all of them?

300 representatives can't possibly "represent" jack sh*t in a country of 60 million inhabitants. I mean, granted, it's not like 600 representatives were doing a great job to begin with, but this will just make it worse.

That's 1/200,000 residents. Which is absolutely fine. I'd target one rep per 200,000-500,000 people as ideal in most countries. Places like the UK, with more than one MP/100,000 people are just absurd.

You know that's funny, seeing Blairite of all posters taking the muh rash populist position. If GMac comes here too arguing for No we may as well lock the thread lmao.

I don't really care about whether or not the crazies in the five star movement agree with me for whatever reason. What I do care about is creating an efficient, functional legislature and imo that's usually easier when there are fewer members.

Thank you Bankerite to tell us again and again what the technocrats want.

[MaxQue]

In practice the old Italian electoral system - the one used before 1994 - did allow for local representation, because it used open lists. Candidates would tend to focus their efforts on particular parts of the constituency that they ran in (these were huge) and if they were elected would concentrate constituency services in them as well. This extended to nationally prominent politicians: indeed, it was rather difficult to progress far in the DC without having a secure geographical base. So, Giulio Andreotti, who regularly topped the DC poll in the Rome-Viterbo-Latina-Frosinone constituency, always focused his efforts on the towns of the Valle Latina to the east of the city, rather than on the capital itself.

Yes. One of the main problems of the last national electoral law, and of the previous one, is that they don't allow for preference voting, which creates all sorts of problems.
Whereas European Parliament uses open lists (three preference votes) and I think almost all regions do (it probably depends - in Liguria there are two votes).
Sadly a sizable chunk of voters do not care about expressing preference votes even when they can, though.
Of course, well, European Parliament constituencies are HUGE, so at that level there is a bit of luck involved (like, I wouldn't be surprised if there were currently 0 MEPs from Basilicata). I guess I am lucky because there is a MEP from La Spezia - whom I voted for by the way.

There is an MEP form Basilicata

Count by region:
Lombardy: 16
Lazio: 13
Campania: 8
Sicily: 8
Veneto: 7
Emilia-Romagna: 5
Puglia: 5
Piemont: 3
Tuscany: 3
Friuli Venezia Giulia: 2
Liguria: 2
Basilicata: 1
Calabria: 1
Molise: 1
Sudtirol: 1

0 for Aosta, Umbria, Marche, Abruzzi and Sardinia.

[MaxQue]

A-IV is running as one party?

A is Azione or Action

IV is Italia Viva or Italy Alive.

So it is an alliance, but it is separate of the bigger blocks if that is what you mean.

Now why is this Liberal/Left ticket running separate of the center-left ticket? A-IV is partially Renzi's invention, partially Calenda's.

They did not want to be on the same list as the Greens/Left, as those are too far from center.