Democratic New Hampshire primary results thread (polls close @7pm and 8pm ET)

[MaxQue]

muh 272 firewall

If you think Trump can carry Virginia or Pennsylvania, you're delusional. Face it: She's guaranteed to win the election if she faces Trump or Cruz.

Polls says otherwise. Trump would beat Clinton in Pennsylvania.

Polls from 2011 also said Romney would beat Obama in PA. 48% is the Republican ceiling in the state. Trump would get crushed in the Philly suburbs and likely lose worse than Corbett and McCain statewide.

Obama wasn't campaigning yet in 2011. Clinton is campaigning since months.

[MaxQue]

As for the gloating, enjoy it while you can. I sincerely mean that. Things are gonna get pretty ugly for Bernie soon, so it's nice he could have his moment in the sun.

^EXACTLY!^ See you on Feb. 27 and on Super Tuesday, Berniebots!

You have already wrote off Nevada?

[MaxQue]

The problem with people who seem to think that Hillary will guarantee a victory for the Democrats in November is that they're viewing this election through 2008-tinted glasses rather than 2016 ones.

It is not the matter of Hillary guaranteeing anything: it is the matter of Sanders endangering it. A Trump presidency should be sufficiently frightening not to risk it.

If Sanders wins, it will also make it much more likely that Bloomberg enters: and, if he enters, that he will take a lot of Dem votes. he will not win, but he can elect Trump or Cruz.

If the primary is long, we will get a candidate AFTER the filling date to run as an independent in most states.

[MaxQue]

The problem with people who seem to think that Hillary will guarantee a victory for the Democrats in November is that they're viewing this election through 2008-tinted glasses rather than 2016 ones.

It is not the matter of Hillary guaranteeing anything: it is the matter of Sanders endangering it. A Trump presidency should be sufficiently frightening not to risk it.

If Sanders wins, it will also make it much more likely that Bloomberg enters: and, if he enters, that he will take a lot of Dem votes. he will not win, but he can elect Trump or Cruz.

If the primary is long, we will get a candidate AFTER the filling date to run as an independent in most states.

Well, all that means is that a long primary is making Bloomberg much more likely to enter.

Then, Sanders should make clear than party loyalty is important and make float the idea of a primary challenge to every Democrat office-holder backing someone else than the official candidate.

Hillary will have no choice, but to follow suit, given the pressure.

[MaxQue]

Then, Sanders should make clear than party loyalty is important and make float the idea of a primary challenge to every Democrat office-holder backing someone else than the official candidate.

Hillary will have no choice, but to follow suit, given the pressure.

1)A guy who isn't a registered Democrat is hardly the ideal person to talk about party loyalty.

2)Nobody will overtly support Bloomberg, they will just sit on their hands. After all, Sanders has raised 0 dollars for state parties and Dem congressional candidates, so it's not like they owe him anything.

I'm pretty sure nobody ever asked him to raise money, through.

And they want people to vote for the winner of Democratic primary. Coattails and straight ticket voting...

[MaxQue]

If you believe the CNN exit polls, moderate and conservative democrats voted for Bernie by a LARGER margin (23pts) than liberal/very liberal democrats (21pts).

Prove my point. Voters don't care about ideology. They care about personality and anti-establishment.

[MaxQue]

Croydon seems to have an issue. 17 votes for Hillary, 0 for Bernie, and 5 for other.

DD says Sanders got 109 votes there.