Senate Discussion and Noticeboard

[MaxQue]

By the way, I don't think than the government job is to enforce and make laws about morality.

Both sides can still try to convince me. NCY, stop rambling about morality, you won't convince anyone by insulting your opponents and living in an alternate reality.

[MaxQue]

Sorry, I don't trust some radical Christian-Muslim blog. We all know than that would not be the first time than they use only the statistics than goes on their side and rejecting those who are going on the other side.

Perhaps you are right too, but I don't trust that source.

[MaxQue]

I'll vote against that bill unless than the bill is amended to keep the PPT office, but allowing to "suspend" the office for the session. It is like we decided to elect the VP as the PPT.

So, we would have the choice of leaving the job to the VP or electing a PPT.

[MaxQue]

I'll vote against that bill unless than the bill is amended to keep the PPT office, but allowing to "suspend" the office for the session. It is like we decided to elect the VP as the PPT.

So, we would have the choice of leaving the job to the VP or electing a PPT.

Why not just reform the OSPR to allow the VP to be elected PPT instead. That would be the best solution though IMO the VP wouldn't be a good PPT. Bacon King would be good but the previous VP, Meeker, would have been absolutly dreadful along with many in a line before him.

Well, I agree with you. That is why I am against the abolition of the PPT office. Some VPs were awful.

[MaxQue]

In my opinion, it's always good to have a backup in case of a leave of absence, especially in the case of an internet forum. Bacon King was an exception, not the rule, when it comes to Vice Presidents and their activity. In Atlasia, as in real life, the VP is pretty much a seat warmer in case the President is incapacitated to the point where he cannot serve. In that event, the position becomes useful. One cannot "force" activity, and if some VP, who's duty it was to lead the Senate, became inactive, then the government would have to go through the motions to find someone else fit to serve, creating unneeded drama and work.

In short, don't change what ain't broken. The Masterjedi incident was not the norm.

I don't think it was MJ's sudden inactivity that motivated this rather the events of December in which three people ascended to the PPT because two Senators where appointed to other offices who just so happened to be the PPT.

My point remains. Those events were exceptions. It's about as silly as the argument that we should abolish the electoral college because it didn't work 2/44 times in our history. If something works 9.5/10 times, it's ludicrous to change it for the 0.5/10 times it doesn't work.

Well, in some situations 95% of efficiency is acceptable and sometimes 95% of efficiency is not acceptable. In this case, the PPT case, 95% is acceptable. In some other cases, like sending people to jail, being right 95% isn't acceptable, since there is 5% of non guilty prisoners.