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JohnFKennedy
Junior Chimp
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« on: December 30, 2004, 06:19:31 PM »

Well, government or no government, there are always enough other people who could gang up and take any right away from you.

Difference is without a state, you have a legal right to fight them.


Without a state you also don't have laws and an established judicial system so your "legal right" is non-existent.

Without the state and the governing body laying down laws, how are these "legal rights" decided, who decides what people can and cannot do?

Even if we suppose that there is some form of legal system without the state, who exactly enforces the laws?
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JohnFKennedy
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2004, 12:39:03 PM »

Well, government or no government, there are always enough other people who could gang up and take any right away from you.

Difference is without a state, you have a legal right to fight them.


Without a state you also don't have laws and an established judicial system so your "legal right" is non-existent.

Without the state and the governing body laying down laws, how are these "legal rights" decided, who decides what people can and cannot do?

Even if we suppose that there is some form of legal system without the state, who exactly enforces the laws?

You're right, without a stat ethere are no laws. There are only costums, which are derived from natural rights.

What is a "natural right"?

All these so called rights we hold are afforded to us by society. The codes of morality that we follow as law have been created by man for man, it is our own belief of what is right and what is wrong that defines these morals and creates the laws.

As humans have created these codes by which they must live by, what are "natural rights"? Where do they come from? Why do we have to follow them?
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