American Women are having more Abortions

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The Guttmacher Report mentions decreased access to contraception as a possible reason, but they also say this which cuts against that explanation:

The increase in abortion was accompanied by a 6% decline in births between 2017 and 2020. Because there were many more births (3.6 million) than abortions (930,000) in 2020, these patterns mean that fewer people were getting pregnant and, among those who did, a larger proportion chose to have an abortion.

https://www.guttmacher.org/article/2022/06/long-term-decline-us-abortions-reverses-showing-rising-need-abortion-supreme-court

The basic story here seems to be that more women overall don't want to or don't feel ready to have children.  Pro-abortion state policies and the intersectional push to reduce stigma of abortion also likely play a key roles.

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The United States is one of the few nations to vote that food is not a basic human right when The United Nations tried to pass a resolution saying so. And before anybody tries to technically excuse this away, remember how dumb and heartless Conservatives get about public school lunches for growing school children.

 Conservatives don't give a damn about the sanctity of life. They've drawn an indefensible moral line in the sand and will lie, misinform, be hypocritical, excuse the indefensible and when all else fails turn to violence to support a position that the general public does not agree with them on.

"Republicans should have the same position on food security as North Korea" is a great argument that has a lot to do with abortion.

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Seems to me that there are many people out there who are focusing too narrowly on the issue of abortion. They come from the religious angle and can only see that abortion is an affront to God, somehow.

I mean, it would be nice if abortion was never necessary. I would be the first in line to sign up for a society that is more enlightened and had no need for messy abortion issues, or gun issues for that matter.

But we don't live in that world. We live in the real world where people have problems and need help. Just stop with all the moralizing. Sometimes women need to get abortions, and it's for a whole host of reasons that really is nobody's business.

Murder happens all around our country every day, most of it perpetrated by men. Why don't we do something about that rather than always trying to blame women for not being perfect and for not living life the way the religious ones and the moralists want them to.

Not "trying to blame women for not being perfect" does not mean letting babies be aborted for not being perfect. 

Murder of born people is already illegal in the US, government at all levels - from international agreements down to neighborhood associations - spend a lot of resources in trying to stop it, and there is no broad movement in society claiming that it's ok and that it ought to be funded by government and private actors. All pro-lifers ask is getting a little bit closer to that situation when it comes to killings of the unborn.

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Seems to me that there are many people out there who are focusing too narrowly on the issue of abortion. They come from the religious angle and can only see that abortion is an affront to God, somehow.

I mean, it would be nice if abortion was never necessary. I would be the first in line to sign up for a society that is more enlightened and had no need for messy abortion issues, or gun issues for that matter.

But we don't live in that world. We live in the real world where people have problems and need help. Just stop with all the moralizing. Sometimes women need to get abortions, and it's for a whole host of reasons that really is nobody's business.

Murder happens all around our country every day, most of it perpetrated by men. Why don't we do something about that rather than always trying to blame women for not being perfect and for not living life the way the religious ones and the moralists want them to.

Not "trying to blame women for not being perfect" does not mean letting babies be aborted for not being perfect. 

Murder of born people is already illegal in the US, government at all levels - from international agreements down to neighborhood associations - spend a lot of resources in trying to stop it, and there is no broad movement in society claiming that it's ok and that it ought to be funded by government and private actors. All pro-lifers ask is getting a little bit closer to that situation when it comes to killings of the unborn.

No that is not all what pro-lifer's want. They want complete control over the conversation of abortion. They want to control what women do with their bodies. They want everyone in the country to fall in line with their thoughts about God and morality, to the exclusion of what is good for the woman involved in an abortion, and also what is good for the people around her personally.

Why don't anti abortionists just control their own conversation, their own bodies, and if abortion is not for you then don't get one.

What is with trying to control every female in the country with their religious standards? As a woman, what right do you have to speak for me?

And for that matter, who appointed you savior of the unborn?

Jesus did (Matthew 25:40).

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Seems to me that there are many people out there who are focusing too narrowly on the issue of abortion. They come from the religious angle and can only see that abortion is an affront to God, somehow.

I mean, it would be nice if abortion was never necessary. I would be the first in line to sign up for a society that is more enlightened and had no need for messy abortion issues, or gun issues for that matter.

But we don't live in that world. We live in the real world where people have problems and need help. Just stop with all the moralizing. Sometimes women need to get abortions, and it's for a whole host of reasons that really is nobody's business.

Murder happens all around our country every day, most of it perpetrated by men. Why don't we do something about that rather than always trying to blame women for not being perfect and for not living life the way the religious ones and the moralists want them to.

Not "trying to blame women for not being perfect" does not mean letting babies be aborted for not being perfect. 

Murder of born people is already illegal in the US, government at all levels - from international agreements down to neighborhood associations - spend a lot of resources in trying to stop it, and there is no broad movement in society claiming that it's ok and that it ought to be funded by government and private actors. All pro-lifers ask is getting a little bit closer to that situation when it comes to killings of the unborn.

No that is not all what pro-lifer's want. They want complete control over the conversation of abortion. They want to control what women do with their bodies. They want everyone in the country to fall in line with their thoughts about God and morality, to the exclusion of what is good for the woman involved in an abortion, and also what is good for the people around her personally.

Why don't anti abortionists just control their own conversation, their own bodies, and if abortion is not for you then don't get one.

What is with trying to control every female in the country with their religious standards? As a woman, what right do you have to speak for me?

And for that matter, who appointed you savior of the unborn?

Jesus did (Matthew 25:40).

Gods of Prosperity, you come across as a decent human being. I have been in conversations about the subject of abortion for many many years now. I'll tell you now that if all you have is a verse from the bible to quote, then you have no argument. This is what I keep saying, that anti abortionists want to lay down the religious and spiritual law for every female in the country, but you can't really do that. You can try, and you may succeed at times, but if our country makes it harder for women to have abortions there is going to be a backlash.

God vs human reality. And don't get me wrong, I am a believer in a higher power. My belief tells me that this is a benevolent, gracious, loving God, but the religious extremists want to speak for God and cast fire and hatred on already living, thriving human beings because they dare to exercise their freedom of choice. Doesn't make sense to me.

I appreciate you saying I come across as a decent human being. I hope then you can understand that the desire to stop abortion is not in order to rigidly control people or to ignore their needs.  It really is to protect life before birth and not just afterwards.

You asked "who appointed you savior of the unborn?" and I gave the answer I believe in.  I believe it's my duty to try to protect Jesus' little brothers and sisters in the womb.  But someone doesn't need to be a Christian or believe in the Bible to oppose abortion. The pro-life position is strongest among Christians, but there are pro-life Jews, pro-life Muslims, pro-life Buddhists, pro-life Wiccans, and pro-life atheists.