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« on: September 14, 2018, 02:28:27 PM »





And they did the exact same thing with Porter and look what happened. The FBI's job here isn't to investigate, it is to do background checks.

Well anyway unless there is an actual corroborated accusation it shouldnt be held against him , because until that point its just a smear job .

It shouldn't be outright dismissed. You are giving a guy a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land. if Republicans weren't amoral, they would slow down the process and actually look into it. But they are Republicans, so they will just charge forward.

How much can they do to look into this without a named accuser?
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2018, 06:47:13 PM »

Between McConnell's insistence that Kavanaugh not be selected as the nominee and the release of the counter letter in under twenty-four hours following the reveal of this incident leads me to believe that Senate Republicans knew about this well in advance (probably because Kavanaugh told them about it) and have been deliberately expediting this process to keep this hushed.

Considering this is for a lifetime appointment to one of the most important offices in the country, the hearing should be delayed until this is seriously investigated.

Admittedly this is true.   The release of a counter-letter in less than 24 hours is quite fishy when you consider it would have taken a few days just to receive it through the mail, especially with the Hurricane disrupting the post office.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2018, 07:01:26 PM »

Just in case anyone needs a reminder after Booker's Spartacus moment of what McConnell's concerns were about Kavanaugh:
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2018, 11:38:55 PM »

It's for the best that this allegation came out now (I would have preferred as soon as July when DiFi first got that letter), as opposed to after Brett Kavanaugh was confirmed to the bench.  If we were to get additional credible evidence that he did in fact sexually assault multiple victims, and he were already a Supreme Court justice when that evidence came out, the Republican Party will have hell to pay.  They already have a sexual predator in the White House -do they really want to be saddled with yet another, this time in the Supreme Court?  

They need to slow this down, and allow for more time for senators to investigate this nominee, and find out exactly why Mitch McConnell did not want him to be nominated in the first place.  Why are we rushing this?  

They want the confirm him before the Court starts its term on October 1, and especially before the November elections.  Everyone who watched the confirmation hearings and the fight over the disclosure of hundreds of thousands of pages of documents from Kavanaugh's time in the White House  can see why McConnell expected the confirmation could be a headache.
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2018, 01:58:30 PM »

Buzzfeed News: Here’s How That Letter From 65 Women Supporting Brett Kavanaugh Came Together So Quickly

I suppose all these 65 women could be lying, this was really put together along time ago, and every single person contacted to help with this conspiracy agreed to it or stay silent.

Unlikely you say?  Sure, but what's the alternative?  All these people are connected somehow with some sort of modern technology that allows people to keep in contact and communicate quickly with each other?
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2018, 04:30:04 PM »

Buzzfeed News: Here’s How That Letter From 65 Women Supporting Brett Kavanaugh Came Together So Quickly

I suppose all these 65 women could be lying, this was really put together along time ago, and every single person contacted to help with this conspiracy agreed to it or stay silent.

Unlikely you say?  Sure, but what's the alternative?  All these people are connected somehow with some sort of modern technology that allows people to keep in contact and communicate quickly with each other?

The letter should not be totally dismissed, however I don't find it very probative in determining whether or not the assault occurred, assuming none of the women in question rashly at the party and have specific facts to offer disputing whether the incident occurred or not.

The mere fact that individuals knew him and didn't think he'd be the type to sexually assault someone doesn't particularly disprove that a particular incident, fueled by alcohol and adrenaline, might not have still occurred. Quite truthfully, before his hidden life was uncovered, it would have been very easy to find 65 female acquaintances vouching for Ted Bundy's Behavior because he was such a likeable and Charming guy. And no, before anyone asks, I am not remotely, even hyperbolically, comparing Justice Cavanaugh 2 Ted Bundy. I'm merely pointing out that it's a small minority of Those who commit a sexual assault, particularly if it is a one-time thing as thus far the evidence suggests, whom aren't normally decent acting family man and "good kids". I've seen it many many times.

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2018, 11:30:42 PM »

Even if there is just a 1% chance that Kavanaugh did it, in any sane world this would be enough to derail his nomination. We can't have a SCOTUS justice with even the whiff of suspicion of sexual assault.

The problem is that means all one has to do to stop a politically contentious nomination is to make an accusation.   The accusation needs to be substantiated in some way in order for it to justify derailing the nomination, or else the likely result is system failure in terms of Court appointments.
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2018, 11:39:21 PM »

Even if there is just a 1% chance that Kavanaugh did it, in any sane world this would be enough to derail his nomination. We can't have a SCOTUS justice with even the whiff of suspicion of sexual assault.

The problem is that means all one has to do to stop a politically contentious nomination is to make an accusation.   The accusation needs to be substantiated in some way in order for it to justify derailing the nomination, or else the likely result is system failure in terms of Court appointments.

Of course. But the point is appropriate time should be allowed to review the accusation. But the Senate Judiciary Committee majority so far seems little inclined to slow things down a day from their mission.

How does one proceed in reviewing an accusation without an identified accuser?
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2018, 11:45:12 PM »

Even if there is just a 1% chance that Kavanaugh did it, in any sane world this would be enough to derail his nomination. We can't have a SCOTUS justice with even the whiff of suspicion of sexual assault.

The problem is that means all one has to do to stop a politically contentious nomination is to make an accusation.   The accusation needs to be substantiated in some way in order for it to justify derailing the nomination, or else the likely result is system failure in terms of Court appointments.

Of course. But the point is appropriate time should be allowed to review the accusation. But the Senate Judiciary Committee majority so far seems little inclined to slow things down a day from their mission.

Yeah. What I'm saying is that the accusation, for this purpose, should be considered as credible until proven otherwise. If Kavanaugh has proof that the accusation is not credible, then by all means he should go ahead and bring them up. But the burden of proof is on him.

Someone said you assaulted them but you don't know who it is or when or where the supposed assault took place - and the burden of proof is on you to prove them wrong?   
Have we put the NKVD in charge here?
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2018, 06:34:47 PM »

Collins says she was surprised by allegations, brought it up with him when they met.
Keeps hedging on specifics, doesn't seem willing to expend political capital to tank the nomination right now, given the uncertainty.

Where did you see this?

The reports I've read all said that Feinstein hadn't shared anything about the contents of letter with her fellow Senators until this week.
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2018, 06:44:11 PM »

Looks like Feinstein is coming firmly down on the side of this being in the jurisdiction of the FBI
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2018, 07:59:09 PM »



They want the benefits of putting this on television for their campaign portfolios.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2018, 08:15:04 PM »



They want the benefits of putting this on television for their campaign portfolios.

Democracy dies in darkness, shua.

They should have the questions asked by staff members and release the audio.
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