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« on: May 24, 2014, 10:37:03 PM »

It disturbs me that mental health is only discussed after a shooting.
I hope this is sarcasm, because the thing that never seems to be discussed around here after a shooting is mental health.

I thought we were just discussing it. Tongue
In terms of the national conversation, it does appear that after a shooting is when mental health gets talked about.   And often not in a very constructive way, since the focus tends to be on preventing these events that are not applicable at all to the vast majority of people with mental health problems.
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2014, 12:01:37 AM »

Why didn't this guy just hire a prostitute?

because he wanted to be wanted.  having to pay for it would just be an extension of the humiliation.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2014, 12:18:41 AM »

Keep in mind that I say the following as a supporter of the right to bear arms.

Since as far as I am aware, no existing gun law was broken before he went on his shooting spree.  Nor were such laws broken in the case of Newtown.  So bringing out the canard that we need to enforce the existing laws before even daring to consider anything else is really really not helpful.  Now if you actually have something to say that pertains to this particular incident, please do so.  However, the enforce meme exists only to delay doing anything, and not just with gun issues.  So unless you have something relevant to say, either shut up or go on Fox News.

It is illegal for mentally-ill individuals to purchase firearms. This individual is clearly mentally ill. Therefore, we are not enforcing the laws we have on the books, and this is basically Jared Loughner Part II, though, we do not have a failed military psyche evaluation on Rodgers record.


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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2014, 01:41:45 AM »

We've been letting sober people who know nothing about drugs dictate drug policy for quite a while now. How's that working out?

Let's just try finding some people who know something about guns but don't fetishize them, and see what they have to say. 
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2014, 02:13:52 AM »

We've been letting sober people who know nothing about drugs dictate drug policy for quite a while now. How's that working out?

The solution to that problem is to put drug policy in the hands of sober people who do know something about drugs, rather than into the hands of people on drugs. Which is basically what you're saying too:

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...but my concern is that the AggregateDemands of this world would then claim that those people know nothing about guns.

That claim could still be made, sure, but at least we wouldn't have legislators showing off the dangerous cosmetic features of guns as they hold the gun by the trigger as evidence backing up such claims.
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