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« on: October 31, 2013, 12:09:20 PM »

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What are you going to do for those already addicted, Bloomby?
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2013, 04:11:57 PM »

Link, are you assuming that no one under the age of 21 is addicted?
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2013, 02:54:58 PM »

If tobacco was illegal and marijuana was legal there'd be no black market for tobacco like there is with marijuana now. No one would have desire to smoke cigarettes if they were illegal, it's not a "fun" drug.

There's already a black market for tobacco. That's what the T in ATF stands for.  The only reason it's not bigger is that is the taxes and a Cuban embargo aren't as big a deal as an outright ban.  People don't have to hear fluorescent ponies when they take a drug for people to enjoy it or become dependent on it.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2013, 12:38:48 PM »

The problem I have with tobacco that makes it so much different from other drugs is it's so pointless. It just makes you smell bad and kills your lungs. That's it. No cool highs or hallucinations or nice effects from it. Get high all you inksing want and I don't care but there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to smoke cigarettes. The only reason people smoke is because of marketing and making it "cool" to get them started and hooked. None of that would happen if it wasn't legal. The only reason there's a tobacco black market now is people who are already hooked want to buy it cheaper. There's a reason why in the last 40 years tobacco consumption has halved, while marijuana and alcohol consumption rates have basically remained the same.

There's a reason why the US and Canada have virtually identical marijuana and alcohol consumption rates, but in the US tobacco has about a 20% higher tobacco consumption rate. In addition to Canadian tobacco taxes being far higher than just about anywhere in the US the packaging and marketing is far more restricted.

The percentage of people who are smokers is about the same, so I guess Canadian smokers don't use quite as much - suggesting taxes are more influential in the difference than marketing and packaging.
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