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« on: April 14, 2013, 06:19:07 PM »

To play devils advocate for the moment, Planned Parenthood, and its involvement with providing abortion services, is a tangled web indeed. This may have been more about animus to that organization for its abortion enmeshment, and less about Sex Ed and disease prevention. Planned Parenthood should really spin off its abortion activities into a separate organization, with a separate name. Of course, abortions is where the money is, so bifurcation is probably not in the cards, and this will be an issue that simply will not go away, the way gay marriage will go away over time as an active issue.

Or maybe the "pro-life" alternatives to Planned Parenthood that these states want to get the funding instead should actually provide family planning services. Crisis pregnancy centers are not an acceptable alternative to Planned Parenthood from a public health standpoint. They don't provide birth control or treatment for STDs or women's health issues like breast cancer. All they do is tell pregnant women not to kill their baby and send them on their merry way. They do nothing to lower the likelihood of these women becoming pregnant again or help them in managing their health.

I would have less of a problem with this kind of thing if the pro-lifers were willing to create what was essentially a clone of Planned Parenthood minus the abortion services. But they have no interest in doing that. Because they really don't care about public health. They see STDs and unplanned pregnancies as God's punishment for fornication.

Yeah, they are so convinced that new mothers are under God's punishment that they offer free services such prenatal care, childcare supplies, emotional and relational counseling, parenting classes, various referrals for social support and yes, in some cases, comprehensive sex ed.   They do all this relying on donations and volunteers rather than government funding and proceeds from abortion.  But they don't spend their meager resources on providing birth control because they just hate women that much.
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2013, 04:03:06 PM »


Why haven't they figured out that if they spent more of their meager resources on birth control, they wouldn't have to spend as much on the things you mentioned - all of which are only necessary after someone has already become pregnant?


For one thing, some morally object to distributing it, but I don't know of anyone who is trying to  make it harder to get. Condoms are cheap, so availability isn't an issue when it comes to unplanned pregnancies.  Pills require people who are qualified to prescribe and distribute them, which is hard to expect from a volunteer organization with limited funds. So other places can do that, but crisis pregnancy centers have another mission which is very important.   
Some women get pregnant not because they can't get birth control, but because they want a child and think they guy they're with is going to stick around.  But then the only help the man offers is some money to get an abortion.  Who is going to help them, if not crisis pregnancy centers? 
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2013, 04:28:28 PM »

I assume someone has noted that a substantial percentage of teens getting pregnant not married, etc. want to do so. They assume that the stack is wired against them, and they don't have a future, so why not feel important, and have someone to love, by having a baby?  This issue is not going to be "solved" by having more health classes, or birth control available. It's far deeper and more intractable than that.

While it may seem more off-putting because they're teens, those kind of pregnancies are still planned pregnancies.  Those are not preventable, but they're fine.  They still have, theoretically, a mother who wants the love of a baby and will take good care of it, even if there is intense poverty involved.

It's the unwanted ones which are the trouble and those are fully preventable.

"The trouble"?

Unwanted and unplanned are not the same.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2013, 04:38:21 PM »

I assume someone has noted that a substantial percentage of teens getting pregnant not married, etc. want to do so. They assume that the stack is wired against them, and they don't have a future, so why not feel important, and have someone to love, by having a baby?  This issue is not going to be "solved" by having more health classes, or birth control available. It's far deeper and more intractable than that.

While it may seem more off-putting because they're teens, those kind of pregnancies are still planned pregnancies.  Those are not preventable, but they're fine.  They still have, theoretically, a mother who wants the love of a baby and will take good care of it, even if there is intense poverty involved.

It's the unwanted ones which are the trouble and those are fully preventable.

"The trouble"?

Unwanted and unplanned are not the same.


It is for teenagers. Ergo the whole need for comprehensive sex ed in schools.

So there's never teenagers who have unplanned pregnancies and want their child? 
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