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« on: November 26, 2011, 12:19:55 AM »

again, certification of results implies the calculation of preferential votes and declaring a winner.  if each region does this, there will need to be a way to decide what happens when different candidates win different regions.
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 01:08:41 AM »

again, certification of results implies the calculation of preferential votes and declaring a winner.  if each region does this, there will need to be a way to decide what happens when different candidates win different regions.

I continue to not really comprehend what you're saying in yet another thread, here. The vote totals can just be added up nationally, counting from each regional thread. Sure, it would certainly be more efficient if we just changed the system entirely into some sort of electoral-college-y system, since counting presidential votes on the regional level is a retarded make-work half-step, but it was the only way two people would support the damn thing last time, so it was the only way this overall plan was going anywhere.

I don't think that IRV allows for such a thing, or at least its not clear how the national total would be calculated once every region has done its IRV. And if each region has not done its own IRV, then there's really no sense it which the result could be certified by each region.

Think for a second here about how votes are "counted" in IRV.  It's not simple addition. There's nothing at all useful gained by adding the numbers from different regions under the current system. What you need to know is who *each* person preferenced in what order.  There is no raw vote total that can be just passed on from the region to the nation.
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 11:07:57 PM »

I offer an amendment to remove "and certification of election results" from section 1.
Thank you for hearing my concern on this. Smiley

The idea of a failsafe by the SOFE in case a governor does not open a booth is also a good, and I think necessary, one.
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