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Alben Barkley
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« on: February 09, 2021, 10:56:28 PM »

A famous actor who is gay got all the other women to walk out of an awards show in February 2020 because Roman Polanski got an award.

Good.

I'm generally anti-"woke," but Roman Polanski is a disgusting child rapist and the fact that countries like France embrace him while claiming the moral high ground over the US is the height of hypocrisy.
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Alben Barkley
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2021, 01:13:53 AM »

A famous actor who is gay got all the other women to walk out of an awards show in February 2020 because Roman Polanski got an award.

Good.

I'm generally anti-"woke," but Roman Polanski is a disgusting child rapist and the fact that countries like France embrace him while claiming the moral high ground over the US is the height of hypocrisy.

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In France, public opinion polls have consistently shown that 65-75 per cent of the population believes Mr Polanski should be extradited to the US, while many members of the ruling UMP party have also criticised the government’s actions.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100716202849/http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7ad75dca-ae06-11de-87e7-00144feabdc0.html

So, no, France certainly does not "embrace" him.

I am in no way saying I support not extraditing him, I'm just pointing out the bad arguments you are making against a country when 70% of them want justice.

Also, it's quite important to mention that France explicitly bans the extradition of its citizens, along with dozens of other countries. So yea, it wouldn't be even remotely legal.

Well it's good to know that according to that more than a decade old poll, Polanski isn't beloved by the French populace at large. But I was specifically referring to the French government when I said that, which absolutely has embraced him. See this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-polanski-france/french-minister-doubts-u-s-fairness-to-roman-polanski-idUSTRE59035C20091001

And this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130209194337/http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1926508,00.html

They also keep giving him prestigious roles in awards shows and such:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38700222

And, of course, allow him to film there.

None of that is necessary; even if they refuse to extradite him, they could make him a pariah rather than a celebrated and prestigious member of French society.

It is very clear that Polanski is getting special treatment because he is considered a great artist, something that probably would not apply to an ordinary citizen; some way to extradite or try him probably would have been found otherwise.

I mean the article outright says so:

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"The French view Polanski as an artist and celebrity and feel he deserves a different kind of treatment than ordinary people, which just isn't an option in the U.S.," says Ted Stanger, an author and longtime resident of France who has written extensively on the differing public views and attitudes across the Atlantic. "The French in particular, and Europeans in general, don't understand why it isn't possible for American officials to intervene and say, 'Hey, it's been over 30 years and things look a little different now. Let's just forget this thing."

In any case, my point was that it's dumb to cite protesting Polanski as an act of egregious "wokeness" when few people deserve to be protested more.
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