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Alben Barkley
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« on: October 04, 2020, 10:42:36 AM »

There still may be justice for the way the Democrats treated Trump. This will be their reward for their bogus Russian collusion charge and investigation and a bogus impeachment.  They will reap what they sowed.
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Alben Barkley
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2020, 11:15:46 AM »

Right after the Access Hollywood tape came out.  

Yes. In that election, Clinton would see spikes like that whenever Trump did something especially stupid or controversial. But they never lasted long, the race remained pretty tight and fluctuated a lot. This is about the best she ever polled. Then of course she had her own “scandal” thanks to Comey that eroded her lead.

This election, on the other hand, has been remarkably steady, with Biden routinely cracking into the 50s and having double digit leads the whole time. Trump’s only led in like 1 Rasmussen poll in the past god knows how many months. It’s not comparable at all. Trump needed to turn something around desperately, instead if anything it’s just getting worse for him on the home stretch.
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Alben Barkley
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2020, 11:32:26 AM »

I mean, it seems like literally the only thing that both Trump supporters and doomers/concern trolls have left to argue is “but 2016.”

But they completely fail to understand what happened in that election and why. And how this is totally different. For one thing, Biden is actually liked whereas Hillary was not. For another, Trump now has a (horrible) record to defend; he can’t just run as the outsider telling people “What have you got to lose?” anymore. Now people know the answer to that question, and don’t like it to say the least. This is why there are fewer undecideds in the first place, and why those who remain are leaning towards Biden this time.
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Alben Barkley
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2020, 01:21:59 PM »

Divide the "not sures" equally between Biden and Trump, and you get Biden 56%, Trump 42%, Other 2%

And it's probably not gonna be equal, most indications are most lean more towards Biden so...
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Alben Barkley
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2020, 01:29:05 PM »





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The biggest declines for Trump in the poll come from seniors (who are now backing Biden by a 62 percent-to-35 percent margin) and suburban women (58 percent to 33 percent).

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Forty-nine percent of voters say Biden did a better job at Tuesday’s debate, which was marked by insults, interruptions, falsehoods and personal attacks — most, though not all, coming from the president.

That’s compared with 24 percent who say Trump had the better performance.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/biden-s-national-lead-over-trump-jumps-14-points-after-n1242018

Crosstabs: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7221894-200781-NBCWSJ-October-Post-Debate-Poll-1b.html

If this is even remotely close to accurate, Florida is a lock for Biden.
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