1st Presidential Debate Megathread

[Alben Barkley]

If you think trump is winning I don’t think you’re watching this debate

Exactly this. Joe looks like the adult in the room. Trump looks like a screeching child. To most people, that is not a great look. Especially the old people who just want things to calm down.

[Alben Barkley]

https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1311128507217514496

Thanks, Trump.

Remember, if you support Trump, you are a literal Nazi supporter. The facade is gone.

I don't think Biden caught that.
I was immediately going crazy when trump said/ordered the Proud Boys to "stand by."
On Nov 4/5th expect trump to go on national TV, and in code, tell the Proud Boys to "Execute Order 66" or something.
What a mess of an Orange Fascist Bast**d.

That was one of the least bad gaffes.  Biden had some weird fascist moments in that debate, and including his demand that "he was the Democrat Party". my entire watch party started to looking around at each other like, "Did he just say that?"   That gave me flashbacks to a Napoleon statement where he said, "I am the French Revolution."  

Well for one thing, he didn't say "Democrat Party" since no one who isn't a mentally challenged Republican who somehow thinks that's funny says that.

For another thing, (accurately) saying that he is now the leader of the party and as president nothing can get passed if he doesn't sign it -- simply to deflect Trump's attempts to pretend the farther left elements of the DEMOCRATIC Party represent Joe Biden when they do not -- was not at all "fascist." Even if Biden had complete control over the party, that wouldn't make him fascist as it is merely a political party. Not the entire country. (Remember when Trump said "I alone can fix it?" Or when he called the press "the enemy of the people?" THAT was fascist. Never mind what he said tonight.) And he doesn't control it nearly to the extent Trump does the GOP anyway, as that is now a literal cult of personality for Der Fuhrer.

[Alben Barkley]

CNN INSTANT POLL: 60% say Biden won, 28% say Trump

JESUS

Biden has lost. No question about it.

I remembered this nonsense CNN trash poll from 2016, and Trump actually did better against Biden than Clinton.  From the CNN article:
"The post-debate result is about the same as the outcome of a post-debate poll in 2016 after the first debate between Trump and Hillary Clinton. In that poll, 62% thought Clinton won the debate, 27% said Trump did."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-debate-poll/index.html

The Frank Luntz Panel is much better at gauging reactions.  

I'll try to put this in terms you might have the mental capacity to understand:

Debate no decide election.

Not 2016.

Not 2012.
W
Not now.

Good or bad, debate matter little.

Big problem is Trump still down big in polls. Much bigger than 2016 against bad woman.

Different things different.

Doing bad in debate not somehow mean you win election.