Gun control works so well in the UK that kids are wearing "stab vests"

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You are right deadman that gun control does not stop violence. But maybe, just maybe, it prevents the innocent loss of lives in the form of stray bullets?

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You might be on to something there.  How many legally fired "stray bullets" killed somebody last year?

Legally fired? I meant drive by shootings by gangsters from legal or illegal weapons which lead to civilian deaths. And I am not sure how many such deaths occur but even one is too many. If gangs want to kill each other that's fine with me as long as they don't take innocent people with them.

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But making guns illegal isn't going to stop that kind of thing.

Not in America it won't but it seems to have that effect in Britain. All of America would have to ban guns at once for it to have any effect and even then we would have to strictly check people at the borders...so in effect its not possible. But in theory gun control should at least bring down the number of innocent bystanders being shot. Violence may not go down but I do find it preferable that it occurs in the form of knifefights rather than gunfights.

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..and I didn't post this to start a gun debate, but feel free.  I don't care what the UK gun laws are, the people that live there freely elect the people that pass the laws and are free to leave if they don't like what the majority wants those laws to be.  Who the hell am I to complain?



I'm just standing here holding my gun and making fun.



(I don't actually own a gun nor am I currently holding one)

I don't want to have a gun control debate either, mainly since I think we agree mostly. People want to have guns to go hunting and I think they should have the right to have it. I just found it interesting that gang violence is perhaps just as prevalent in Britain as in America yet the chance of mistake identity/crossfire killings is much lower. Of course when it comes to things like muggings knives are just as bad as guns.