I'm just appalled by this script that gets trotted out whenever something like this happens that if somebody does something horrible then they must be mentally ill, so clearly some sort of improvements to mental health treatment (which, granted, are necessary, just not necessarily for this reason) would have prevented it. Has the American right seriously talked itself into thinking this way? What happened to personal responsibility for one's actions? What happened to not trusting rationalized institutions like the psychiatric profession to come to all the decisions about people's lives? It's just amazing to me that those philosophical presuppositions are getting contorted to conform to the predetermined reflexively pro-gun Issues stance, rather than letting the Issues stances flow out of the philosophical presuppositions. It shouldn't surprise me but it does. It's the only thing about this whole argument that does any more.
Nobody on the American right is calling this mental illness. Theyre calling it Islamic terrorism.
Yes, it's only "mental illness" to conservatives when it's non-Muslims shooting up the place.
Do you honestly think this was a case of "mental illness"?
Do you think Dylan Roof was mentally ill? If so, why is he mentally ill and this guy is not.
Dylan Roof is a domestic terrorist and should be tried as such. In fact, I'd argue that there was more cause to prevent Roof from buying a gun than Mateeb (as Wolf pretty much outright said he was going to do something in Charleston on his blog IIRC).
As long as we treat them both the same I have no problem with it. I think people who are capable of doing such acts, even in the name of a religion or ideology, have something deeply wrong with them. Doesn't mean they could actually get diagnosed with a mental illness but you can't be all there if you can perpetrate atrocities like this.