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It’s so Joever
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« on: August 05, 2022, 11:55:30 PM »

Yeah Zelensky sucks, but he ain’t Putin. Of course if Red Velvet believes his country should get cuddly with Russia…well never underestimate the American ability to organize a coup. We will replace your corrupt leader with our corrupt leader and you will like it.
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2022, 04:00:21 AM »

Yeah Zelensky sucks, but he ain’t Putin. Of course if Red Velvet believes his country should get cuddly with Russia…well never underestimate the American ability to organize a coup. We will replace your corrupt leader with our corrupt leader and you will like it.

US has no real power over anyone
Yes you are right, we are so powerless. It wouldn’t be us behind such a coup, we wouldn’t do such a thing. We just are too innocent and helpless to even pull that off.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2022, 09:35:37 AM »

Yeah Zelensky sucks, but he ain’t Putin. Of course if Red Velvet believes his country should get cuddly with Russia…well never underestimate the American ability to organize a coup. We will replace your corrupt leader with our corrupt leader and you will like it.

US has no real power over anyone
Yes you are right, we are so powerless. It wouldn’t be us behind such a coup, we wouldn’t do such a thing. We just are too innocent and helpless to even pull that off.

No, that’s not what I mean. My point is that any regime change attempt or sovereign interference anywhere is only effective when there’s the alignment from significant internal groups pushing for the same thing. If these domestic people don’t accept American hegemonic narrative, the sand castle of global power falls.

For example, even the Euromaidan thing was only successful because enough Ukrainian people joined that movement to overthrow the government.

Anyway, I like people that are more honest as you. At least in comparison to the fake democracy defenders crying for Ukrainian sovereignty but thinking the exact same thing you said. Everyone knows US wouldn’t accept in Mexico what Russia is expected to accept in Ukraine for example and your logic backs that up.
Eh still very different. The actual example you want would be if Mexico started becoming a Chinese ally military wise but never actually joined any alliances (and was not getting much closer to joining one) and the US used that as an excuse to invade directly.
That would be seen pretty negatively, although not as negatively as what is happening in Ukraine (and I do genuinely believe we would commit far fewer crimes against humanity for a variety of reasons, say what you want about American military operations but we do try to do it efficiently and quickly)
Again this wouldn't happen because the US still would almost certainly back a coup over a direct invasion or anything to not be as associated with it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2022, 12:25:44 PM »

Yeah Zelensky sucks, but he ain’t Putin. Of course if Red Velvet believes his country should get cuddly with Russia…well never underestimate the American ability to organize a coup. We will replace your corrupt leader with our corrupt leader and you will like it.
Zelenskyy is a war criminal.
Not *as* much of one as Putin though.
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