The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

[It’s so Joever]

Good. He shouldnt

I think it's time for a thread rename

Alas, he is far from the only blue/yellow avatar that justifies murder in the name of law and order.

So guys, what would you do if there were a few dozen people with tiki torches and molotov cocktails out in front of your house, getting ready to burn it to the ground? Seriously, I'm curious to know how you'd go about handling that situation, given that you're so quick to criticize others for their methods of dealing with it.

Sacrifice myself to the non-binary, racially ambiguous gods of SJWism. According to their religion, I can go to Berkeley when I die.

[It’s so Joever]

Were the protestors social distancing as they smashed windows?
That makes a big difference.

[It’s so Joever]

Good. He shouldnt

I think it's time for a thread rename

Alas, he is far from the only blue/yellow avatar that justifies murder in the name of law and order.

So guys, what would you do if there were a few dozen people with tiki torches and molotov cocktails out in front of your house, getting ready to burn it to the ground? Seriously, I'm curious to know how you'd go about handling that situation, given that you're so quick to criticize others for their methods of dealing with it.

This is a topic for another thread, but call 911 and wait for the police and/or firefighters to come.

Though I will also note that defending your home (where you would be defending your life and that of your loved ones) is not quite the same as defending your business (where you would "merely" be defending property)

I hold slightly more sympathy for people defending their home, though as always specifics matter.

So, stay inside a burning home or business until the cops may or may not show up?

No, obviously if your house is on fire you should escape or put out the fire. But at that point shooting people will not solve anything anyways.

And cops should show up. If not, add "police should be faster when attending emergencies" to the list of issues with the police

What if these people are armed and will shoot or hurt you if escape the burning building? Then what?

Well, then you die I guess, unless cops come to save you. But if a mob of tens of people comes armed at your home I doubt you could survive regardless of whether or not you shoot at them first.

Real life is not Call of Duty, and you are not going to get a "10 kill killstreak" if suddenly tens of people armed with guns come knocking on your door with the intent of killing you, your family and burning all you have.

You are insane.

You beat me to writing precisely that. Even if I die protecting my family, at least I'm sending a half dozen or so to their doom. People who don't respect property forfeit their right to life.

Correction: People who don’t respect the lives of other people, especially children (yes this creates a paradox, shut up)

[It’s so Joever]

As soon as one of Del Tachi/GreenLine/Dead0/Bandit/ExtremeRep apologize for having downplayed the virus for months and having been complicit in the endorsement of dangerous behavior during a pandemic, I will apologize for my “horrible” statement if it makes Atlas feel better.

Until then, I don’t care, because what I said was morally dubious and extreme, but it was still nothing compared to the months of downplaying and sheer stupidity we have seen on this blog.

You can have differing opinions on whether lockdowns/closures are a good option or not, but you can’t deny basic facts about the virus, and endorse dangerous and unnecessary behavior during this time.

What I said was wrong, but it pales in comparison to what has been said by so many for months.

[It’s so Joever]

As soon as one of Del Tachi/GreenLine/Dead0/Bandit/ExtremeRep apologize for having downplayed the virus for months and having been complicit in the endorsement of dangerous behavior during a pandemic, I will apologize for my “horrible” statement if it makes Atlas feel better.

Until then, I don’t care, because what I said was morally dubious and extreme, but it was still nothing compared to the months of downplaying and sheer stupidity we have seen on this blog.

You can have differing opinions on whether lockdowns/closures are a good option or not, but you can’t deny basic facts about the virus, and endorse dangerous and unnecessary behavior during this time.

What I said was wrong, but it pales in comparison to what has been said by so many for months.

Thank you for posting directly into the thread.

Okay that made me chuckle a bit.

[It’s so Joever]

so like when me and my wife were 22 and got married would we not have been allowed to live together lmao

big gov can go f!ck themselves. it makes me so mad.

I would rather the big gov. f**ks me. I want to be treaded on so badly.

Lmao

How is this a bad post?

[It’s so Joever]

This still doesn't explain why flyover country WWC people deserve a tax cut.

I mean of course, I would support my own interests. Quite frankly, I also never get this sympathy for these rural racists in Appalachia, I never understood why we must pander to them? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't think I am.

So we should be subsidizing WV racists??

We get it, you hate white people and you hate poor people.

I mean honestly WV is just full of rural, racist hicks who can't tolerate Democrats because Democrats want to do something about climate change and don't play white resentment politics. The old Dixiecrats couldn't bear to see their beloved party actually decide to support minorities. Also let's be honest, if WV voted Democrat, Republicans would say the exact same thing about how awful it is.

If you want to stop subsidizing poor, stupid racists, then stop supporting the party that wants to give them free healthcare, social security, UBI, and welfare.

I see you've returned to your precious Republicans, before the election is even over.

You're the one with the blue avatar.

The avatar's a meme look at the username

Your whole persona on this site is a meme at this point so that tells me nothing.

And posts like this are why you're on my ignore list

Dude...take a joke for once.

[It’s so Joever]

!remind me November 3rd

[It’s so Joever]

Katie Hill and Al Franken should have never resigned just to appeal to the hypocritical republicans of America.
At least the radical Trumpists are honest about being morally bankrupt.
The moderate blue avatar outrage on here is like moderate GOPer morals, neither exist.

Honestly at this rate I would support a Democrat with my policy views no matter what they did, it’s clear the Republicans are the same as a party.

Katie Hill was f***ing a subordinate and Franken was a sex predator who sexually assaulted numerous women.  You’re just as much of an amoral hypocrite as any Republican if you defend scum like Franken just b/c he was a Democrat.  If this post is anything to go by, you don’t care about the survivors of sexual assault; you just care about whether or not you can use them as props to dunk on politicians you disagree with.

Hey, I’m just playing the rules the GOP set, don’t blame me just because your own side is so horrid.

If you call yourself a Republican, everything you say about me applies to you as well. Sure I suck, now take a good long, shameful look in the mirror before you go on some moralistic tirade.

Yeah Katie Hill had s** with a subordinate and Al Franken has been found to be...well you know. Now look at your side...or don’t if you want to retain a tiny bit of faith in humanity. I don’t understand why you think Democrats should care if the GOP doesn’t when it’s not politically convenient.

“Oh how dare Forumlurker play by our standards?! He and the other Democrats are supposed to be spineless and take the high road while we excuse literal neo-Nazis, Alabama mall creeps, and domestic terrorists!”

Why must you always go for the low hanging fruit?

[It’s so Joever]

This...is just something else, and it belongs in these halls of disgrace (imagine thinking someone actually wants this, this sounds like literal Stalinism or fascism, and I have been loud and clear about being a capitalist and being someone who is a strong proponent of racial equality and a strong critic of bigotry), propose renaming the thread

You should do something about Del Tachi and jimrtex. I think they should be banned permanently (much like what BRTD is trying to do to me).

I second this honestly, though you should be banned too

> Be S019
> Wake up at 8:00 AM sharp to a knock on the door
> The police have arrived for the biweekly weapons sweep
> Open the door; ten SWAT officers march through the house to check for watermelon knives
> They confiscate a potato peeler and leave
> Time for breakfast
> Decide to make toast
> Remember that toasters have been illegal for three years, ever since a toddler got his hand stuck in one
> Put bread in electric stove
> Stove has maximum temperature of 100 degrees, as per regulations
> Look for a butter knife, but they've all been confiscated
> Spread butter on limp, warm bread using a plastic spoon
> Try not to make eye contact with the surveillance camera in the kitchen ceiling
> Time to go to work
> Don helmet and reflective vest
> Hop into government-designed mobility vehicle
> The office is only 15 miles away, but ever since the speed limit was lowered to 5 mph to prevent crashes, the commute takes three hours
> On the way to work, stop off at the courthouse to pay fines for the week
> Pay fine for not trimming weeds in front yard
> Pay fine for being outside after curfew
> Pay fine for jaywalking
> Pay fine for pumping own gas
> Eventually arrive at work at the Department of Regulatory Compliance, which employs 90% of the town
> Insert wrist barcode into scanner mounted at desk
> Receive new case file
> Subject is a man who attempted to commit suicide by jumping from a bridge but was stopped by a safety net
> This criminal must be punished for violating the anti-suicide statute
> Sentence him to death
> Spend rest of the day filling out forms, stamping forms, signing forms
> Fill out application to use fully automatic assault stapler, in order to staple the other forms
> Get in mobility vehicle for the long journey home
> On the way back, stop at a food procurement center to pick up a loaf of bread
> Mandatory strip search takes 45 minutes
> Someone is taken in for questioning after the background check flags them for painting a neighbor’s fence without an occupational license
> Finally make it in line to buy bread
> Cashier asks to see gluten permit
> He realizes the permit has been expired for two whole days
> Justice workers arrive to take me to a re-education center
> Cashier points at me and yells “HE’S GOT A FORK!”
> Lose consciousness as the justice workers rain blows upon me with their non-lethal stun batons
> Such is life in the glorious utopia of suburban New Jersey

Is there a name for younger male Karens?

[It’s so Joever]

Abolishment of the nucleur family? That's insanem Now I can see why their support will drop continuosly.

I would agree with them.
If anything, kids from a young age should be sent to a large centralized childcare center where large groups of children are provided for and later educated.

This would reduce inequality of opportunity to near zero, and would allow us to teach every child important values that many are missing today.

How is this ridiculous?
It makes perfect sense, what is the logical reason against it?

[It’s so Joever]

Abolishment of the nucleur family? That's insanem Now I can see why their support will drop continuosly.

I would agree with them.
If anything, kids from a young age should be sent to a large centralized childcare center where large groups of children are provided for and later educated.

This would reduce inequality of opportunity to near zero, and would allow us to teach every child important values that many are missing today.

How is this ridiculous?
It makes perfect sense, what is the logical reason against it?

Ideally yes, it would be nice to eliminate inequality from opportunity, and this would be the way to do it. However, you are ignoring the psychological impact this would have on everyone involved. Children need role models who aren't teachers or faceless bureaucrats, and parents would resist any effort to take their children away-- sometimes with deadly force.

My Orwellian system would create group supervisors who are watched to ensure they are doing their job, but also act as parental roles of sorts for smaller groups of kids.
I know that parents wouldn’t be happy and would fight, I know this would be near impossible to implement, this is a hypothetical (a should)

[It’s so Joever]

Abolishment of the nucleur family? That's insanem Now I can see why their support will drop continuosly.

I would agree with them.
If anything, kids from a young age should be sent to a large centralized childcare center where large groups of children are provided for and later educated.

This would reduce inequality of opportunity to near zero, and would allow us to teach every child important values that many are missing today.

How is this ridiculous?
It makes perfect sense, what is the logical reason against it?

You want kids to be taken from their parents at a young age

Oh, so now the Republican is worried about kids being separated from parents.

[It’s so Joever]

Confirmed, this is the suspect
https://twitter.com/karol/status/1462626100643876870?s=20

According to that court record the possible suspect posted his $1,000 cash bond two days ago, on Friday. I wonder why he was in Waukesha if he lives in Milwaukee.

Now that travelling in order to commit violent acts has been legalized, I expect him to be found not guilty by virtue of self defense.

Stop.

I am going to have to disagree with that one, I think telling him to stop was more than justified.

[It’s so Joever]

Let's just check something real quick…





Ah yes, of course.

And.....?

Joe's assertion that Stitt would let the guy have a date with ole sparky simply because he was black was absurd.  Clearer now for you, Badg?

Did he actually assert that?

The post only was a photo of the man in question and the words “of course”. Any other meaning you derive from that is on you.
That was your interpretation, and maybe it was your sudden conclusion because that is what you believe or know is true deep down and just don’t want to admit.

If him being black had nothing to do with it, why did you jump to the conclusion that we were referring to his skin color at all? Maybe we were referring to his gender, or hair. But instead you can conclude was based off skin color, so ask yourself, why did you reach that conclusion?

[It’s so Joever]

Let's just check something real quick…





Ah yes, of course.

And.....?

Joe's assertion that Stitt would let the guy have a date with ole sparky simply because he was black was absurd.  Clearer now for you, Badg?

Did he actually assert that?

The post only was a photo of the man in question and the words “of course”. Any other meaning you derive from that is on you.
That was your interpretation, and maybe it was your sudden conclusion because that is what you believe or know is true deep down and just don’t want to admit.

If him being black had nothing to do with it, why did you jump to the conclusion that we were referring to his skin color at all? Maybe we were referring to his gender, or hair. But instead you can conclude was based off skin color, so ask yourself, why did you reach that conclusion?

Because I firmly believe that's what Joe meant.

And why is that?

[It’s so Joever]

Let's just check something real quick…





Ah yes, of course.

And.....?

Joe's assertion that Stitt would let the guy have a date with ole sparky simply because he was black was absurd.  Clearer now for you, Badg?

Did he actually assert that?

The post only was a photo of the man in question and the words “of course”. Any other meaning you derive from that is on you.
That was your interpretation, and maybe it was your sudden conclusion because that is what you believe or know is true deep down and just don’t want to admit.

If him being black had nothing to do with it, why did you jump to the conclusion that we were referring to his skin color at all? Maybe we were referring to his gender, or hair. But instead you can conclude was based off skin color, so ask yourself, why did you reach that conclusion?

Because I firmly believe that's what Joe meant.

And why is that?

Context of the post.  If Joe didn't mean that he's not shy by any means.  He'll come over here to rip me.

I’m sorry, I can be very slow, could you explain the context that makes you think that?

[It’s so Joever]

I made that concert comment because I knew it would p*ss you off tbh.

[It’s so Joever]

As ever, arguing with Computer89 is futile because there is no indication that he is even able to comprehend the points you make.

Most of us blue avatars think the same about red avatar hacks like you . The reason I can’t comprehend the points you guys make is because the points you guys make are absolutely absurd in every way and I completely reject the premise behind your arguments

When it’s you alone who is referred to as extremely dull, unable to process changing information, and having a lack of critical reading skills, it seems that there really is only one common denominator, and you can look for it in the mirror.
 Contrary to your likely argument against this, most blue avatars aren’t exactly criticized for this specifically by the same posters. They are more often called evil, vile, lacking beliefs, or traitors, but NOT slow. It’s actually pretty rare for a poster to be consistently called out on their intellect. The closest I can think of is Fuzzy Bear, but even that is more compared to “brainwashed” which is different from stupid.
I’m not saying you are stupid, if we are being honest I do think you are smarter than you let on and actually do comprehend the arguments your opponents make, but there may be a bit of pride in you that just instinctively pushes you from that and compels you to make these stupid points. You’re not the only one, so don’t feel bad.

[It’s so Joever]

As ever, arguing with Computer89 is futile because there is no indication that he is even able to comprehend the points you make.

Most of us blue avatars think the same about red avatar hacks like you . The reason I can’t comprehend the points you guys make is because the points you guys make are absolutely absurd in every way and I completely reject the premise behind your arguments

When it’s you alone who is referred to as extremely dull, unable to process changing information, and having a lack of critical reading skills, it seems that there really is only one common denominator, and you can look for it in the mirror.
 Contrary to your likely argument against this, most blue avatars aren’t exactly criticized for this specifically by the same posters. They are more often called evil, vile, lacking beliefs, or traitors, but NOT slow. It’s actually pretty rare for a poster to be consistently called out on their intellect. The closest I can think of is Fuzzy Bear, but even that is more compared to “brainwashed” which is different from stupid.
I’m not saying you are stupid, if we are being honest I do think you are smarter than you let on and actually do comprehend the arguments your opponents make, but there may be a bit of pride in you that just instinctively pushes you from that and compels you to make these stupid points. You’re not the only one, so don’t feel bad.

I make effort posts all the time in OP's but when I do these same posters then respond with "OSR is just making excuses" for his party and ignore everything I say and have done so for years. A lot of the reason they respond I do is the fact that when I first came here i was this typical "economically conservative socially liberal" teenage Republican and many thought as I age I would become more liberal.

The fact is as I have grown older I have moved in the opposite direction and a lot of it is because of stuff that is actually happening. The vast majority of the points I make do not come from Fox but are also made by many current Democrats or former Democrats I know in IRL. The feeling I get from red avatars is they think anyone who holds these types of views are either evil, or stupid but dont even try to understand why people hold these types of views.

Why is it that I always must try understand the liberal/progressive point of view but they never even try one bit to understand the conservative point of view. Doesn't that show their lack of critical thinking skills and lack of being able to process new information as well cause I would argue by their standards it absolutely would. The main difference is because this forum is mostly dominated by liberals, their views are viewed as normal and that means their views get far more validated than mine does.

As someone who is on conservacord which is basically an server for "Atlas Blue Avatars and Conservatives" , I can tell you that I am not the only one who has this criticism of these types red avatars .

Dude I understand how this forum operates when you go against the current politically speaking, from Covid-19 to basic ethics, i differ a lot from people here and I think you would agree with that. That being said, I have not had my intellect called into question (my sanity yes, but that one is fair)
You are more likely to be called out for stupidity if you are going against the current, but only if you are showing it in the first place. That’s the general rule it seems from my own view.

Now let’s be clear, I just said you weren’t the only one, so don’t try the “what about xyz”. Yeah XYZ also might sound like an idiot, you can also sound like an idiot

Evil is a subjective term…so to say anyone who disagrees with me is evil definitely doesn’t show an inability to understand their opponents…even if it shows inflexibility. Although you are going based off of these perceived feelings that this is how red avatars see everyone…but you have not addressed that you could be wrong there. More importantly, I still do question to extent to which you actually believe this deep down. If anything, I wonder whether this is an attempt to change the subject a bit (not by you consciously necessarily) so that we don’t address why you could have difficulty admitting you are wrong when new information as presented. Examine yourself, what would it feel like to write “I was wrong, I am going to change my views because of this new information.”
What reaction did you have just now to that?

That’s the real question behind all of this.