Minneapolis cops slowly murder handcuffed man in front of crowd

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https://twitter.com/sunbellyra/status/1265466730501079040

Reminds me of Tea Party protests compared with early BLM demonstrations.

Is the implcation that cops should have set off tear gas in inside the literal state Capitol building during a legislative session over some maskless protesters? If its that the cops should not have gassed the Minnesotans then I agree.

Furthermore, when have Tea Party protestors blocked traffic or burned down the CVS in their own neighborhood? I’m very supportive of BLM, but their tactics are making it harder to sympathize.

>Bring long gun to state capitol
Now that's a peaceful protest!

>Block an intersection
BLM has gone too far! I can't sympathize with that.

Physically blocking someone from a public street is much more confrontational and provocative than some fatties mouth breathing in the gallery with props slung over their shoulders.

I don’t know.
A group of 50~ angry protestors shouting while armed with long guns in a place of political interest seems just a tiny bit problematic...

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I haven't read the rest of this thread, but a few thoughts:

1) That video was hard to watch - senselessly sad, and I am glad that these officers were fired after a proper investigation.  It's mind boggling that this happened ... well, sadly it isn't. :/

2) Even taking the obvious moral issues out of it, what in the HELL did that officer think would happen?!  Has he never turned on the news regarding his field of work in the last several years?  The guy was wearing a body cam, for Pete's sake.  Even if he weren't an alleged murderer, he is a HUGE idiot.

3) It really is sad that a minority of cops gives so many a bad name, and I hope that this picks up a trend of prosecuting actions like this to the fullest.  Every cop I have interacted with or seen here in Chicago has been so nice and helpful, and a very large minority of them have been Black.  I can't even imagine the complex feelings they're feeling right now.

Yeah, it’s really a shame how quickly we have gone to generalizing all cops just because of a few bad ones (when most are devoted towards serving the community)
It kinda reminds me of when Alt-Righters used ISIS to justify rhetoric against Muslims.

Generalizations suck.

(Yes I get the irony don’t point it out)

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Apparently social distancing doesn’t apply to liberal “protestors”.

These guys should be recorded and denied medical treatment in the event of a shortage, just like the anti-lockdown protestors. You act ridiculous, you face the consequences.
This is not the right time for any type of physical protest (with reasonable limitations) and it is certainly not the right time to loot stores and break windows to own the “evil fascist police scum”.

And yes, the police involved in the original incident should be arrested. That doesn’t give you a pass to loot a store while spreading a deadly virus.

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The officers were fired and it is being handled by the FBI. This seems to be being handled appropriately so far. This isn't a western, we have a legal system, after a killing you shouldn't just hang the perpetrator at dawn.

Destroying buildings that provide people with vital supplies now when they are scarce isn't going to bring Floyd or anyone else back to life. It's also pretty glaring that people on the far left who were calling people "murderers" for not following social distancing regulations are now completely fine with this.

I am not fine with this. For the record, these protestors need to be punished for breaking the rules. They should be fined heavily at the very least.

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Here’s the thing, These protestors are clearly not social distancing, are in a large group, and seem to have little regard for the current crisis. While some are wearing masks, it doesn’t make it safe to get in large groups when a thousand people each day are still dying from Covid-19. These protestors are irresponsible, and are as complicit in the murder of civilians as the by standing cops were. It’s a shame how the anti-lockdown protestors were attacked for being selfish, but these protestors are now suddenly okay because they happen to be on a different political side.

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Also does atlas realize how insurance works?
Its not just free stuff, you pay with premiums and its very likely that even if the insurance companies cover riots they will still locally raise premiums due to increased risk, which massively hurts the small businesses in this location if they continue to buy insurance

It is not acceptable to say but the insurance covers everybody so its fine. Even if the looting was just aimed at bigger companies like Target, the premium increase would still likely be spread out.
This is even assuming they cover rioting.

Indeed, the increase in prenimums should be paid from money docked from the MPD payroll. It may trigger other cops to act before someone dies next time if this would have an effect on their paychecks.

An instance of police brutality does not give you nor anyone permission to loot stores, some of which are owned by minorities who are already struggling to make ends meet.

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Well that’s the end of Coronavirus Hysteria, I guess.

Delete your account.

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OK, America.

This was bad. The killer got arrested and charged with murder.

Now it’s time to focus on Coronavirus again, which kills 1.500 Americans per day.

Pfft, you expect too much from Americans when you ask them to think logically.

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So glad to see Trump taking decisive action. Long overdue -- this crisis has thus far been one of the few big black marks of his Presidency.

Covid-19?

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https://twitter.com/mcquillanator/status/1267575544218112000
DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?

If this is the new narrative that we're going with -- that Floyd was "intoxicated" on Fentanyl, then he would not have been nearly as coordinated or coherent as he appears in the various videos taken pre-arrest.  From my experiences, people who have overdosed on Fentanyl appear to be severely drunk (depending on the dosage).  

None of this matters anyway.  Let's say that Floyd was high-as-a-kite, his cardiovascular health was in dire straits and he was minutes away from an unrelated infarction.  Chauvin's actions still directly contributed to his death.  

What do you mean by the part that I have bolded? The store clerk who made the 911 Call said that Floyd looked drunk or something. That there wasn't something right with him. That Floyd was sitting in his car. It appears to be that it was 7 minutes between the 911 Call and the time the first officers arrived.

He was handcuffed and arrested at that time, he appears to have his knees buckled at that time. The formal arrest appears to be while Floyd was sitting/sprawling on the ground.

The store clerk thought that Floyd was drunk or something. If Floyd had not been intoxicated, the store clerk would not have been able to run down the street and yell at him and get the license plate, because Floyd would have driven off. If Floyd had not been intoxicated, he would not have been sitting in the car 7 minutes later when the police arrived.

Imagine that a drunk is beating the c__p out of his wife. Do you send a doctor, nurse, EMT, marriage counselor, or a police officer?

That doesn’t justify pretty blatant homicide. I mean, Floyd was already disabled as a threat minutes before he started begging for air. When Mr Floyd desperately gasped out in pleas to get a bit of air, that should have been pretty damn obvious for the officer, even with the context. A lot of police allegations are exaggerated/miss context. This one doesn’t and is pretty obviously murder on the officer’s part.

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That doesn’t justify pretty blatant homicide. I mean, Floyd was already disabled as a threat minutes before he started begging for air. When Mr Floyd desperately gasped out in pleas to get a bit of air, that should have been pretty damn obvious for the officer, even with the context. A lot of police allegations are exaggerated/miss context. This one doesn’t and is pretty obviously murder on the officer’s part.

According to the indictment, Floyd had said that he could not breathe several times while standing up.

...We have video evidence of everything, I don’t know who you are trying to fool here.

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https://twitter.com/amyklobuchar/status/1268240529034227713
 

As if the protestors care.
Even if we get comprehensive police reform, they would still continue to riot.

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More black people have been murdered in the riots than what started the protests in the first place. I thought black lives matter?

23,000 black lives were lost from Covid-19, and now these protestors are gathering in large groups and screaming while literally so close they touch eachother.
It’s pretty obvious that BLM isn’t thinking this idea through. Unfortunately, it will be too late once they realize their mistake and we all will suffer because of it.