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exopolitician
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Junior Chimp
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« on: May 08, 2008, 03:34:47 AM »

Not sure what you base the "hugely vast majority" analysis on, when all the exit polls indicate that anywhere from 25-40% of her voters will defect to John McCain in November.
Of course, I have no exact figure for how many Hill supporters will vote Obama in the General, but I think it will be a good, solid majority. 

And I don't blame any supporter of a candidate for being bitter that their candidate is losing/will lose/has already lost (however you want to look at it.), especially since they have most probably invested themselves very emotionally and financially,  but I am sure Hillary values the Dem party enough that she will at least try to mend some rifts and unify the party against their enemy in November. 

I hope your right.
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exopolitician
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2008, 03:42:58 AM »

Not sure what you base the "hugely vast majority" analysis on, when all the exit polls indicate that anywhere from 25-40% of her voters will defect to John McCain in November.
Of course, I have no exact figure for how many Hill supporters will vote Obama in the General, but I think it will be a good, solid majority. 

And I don't blame any supporter of a candidate for being bitter that their candidate is losing/will lose/has already lost (however you want to look at it.), especially since they have most probably invested themselves very emotionally and financially,  but I am sure Hillary values the Dem party enough that she will at least try to mend some rifts and unify the party against their enemy in November. 

Why are they telling exit pollsters that as many as 40%++ of them will either stay home or defect then?  I also don't think she's going to help unite the party.  She thinks Obama will lose to McCain and she will probably try to wait til 2012 to run again.  That's why I don't think she will accept a VP spot.  She has already waited 8 years for this, what's 4 more.

TBH....Exit Polls 6 months before the General Election during a verty dirty and competetive primary season doesnt usually mean much. Hopefully 6 months of working to unite the party is going to wield some results and im pretty sure [or just hoping...] some unity happens. Cause if it actually comes down to "half of clinton supporters would either stay home or vote McCain in the GE" come november....then all hope for the democratic party in the future is pretty much gone. Cause thats just obnoxiously sad...
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2008, 04:07:40 AM »

here is a post I lifted from Obama Underground (formerly Democratic Underground) I feel it best expresses how the rest of us feel about Obama.
This article seems to say:  Clinton should have been the nominee, but more people liked Obama, and I am mad my candidate lost.  You will vote for Obama in November if you are a Democrat.  This article is bitterness exemplified at the fair loss of your candidate, and the fair win of another.  It is understandable.  I felt the same way with my candidate of choice in '04.  However, you will definitely come around by November for your party. 

No, we really won't...  I don't think you understand how much some Hillary supporters dislike Obama.  Even though you probably won't believe it, I was never really a hardcore Hillary supporter, in fact I used to be an Obama supporter.  There are Hillary people that are WAY more anti-Obama than I am.  I just got turned off by his constant speeches and his general emptiness as a candidate.  A lot of Hillary Voters flat out dislike him and want to sabotage his campaign by voting for McCain so Hillary can run again in 2012.

Thats nothing to be proud of.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2008, 04:43:26 AM »

But a lot of McCain supporters in CT/NY actually did vote for Gore.  Gore won those states by a huge margin, partially because Bush underperformed among Republicans.  I think issues did take precedence, but McCain was more centrist on the issues so a lot of moderate Republicans defected to Gore's moderate positions.  I bet the same will happen with moderate/conservative democrats who would have supported Clinton but will defect to McCain because Obama is too liberal.

As if Gore was going to lose New York and Connecticut in the first place. I think you should point out those bitter in Virginia and Missouri who said they would defect to Gore...and yet Bush still won those states.
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