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The Mikado
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« on: July 29, 2017, 10:29:20 AM »

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Brooks offers to drop out of #ALSen, then says if he were McConnell he'd resign. Lots of loserspeak from him lately!
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2017, 02:29:41 PM »

The way things are going, I would not be surprised for the Senate to expel Moore and just have Alabama do this whole thing over again. It's a zero-risk move for the GOP: they get to keep the Senate seat and they don't have to have a pedophile in their ranks.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2017, 03:21:45 PM »

So, to clear up some things:

-Moore cannot be replaced on the ballot
-If Moore withdraws, votes for him will not count (2nd place winner will win)
-Strange can run as a write-in if he wants to (sore loser laws don't apply to write-ins)
-AL courts could potentially change these requirements, allows for replacements, etc.

http://excessofdemocracy.com/blog/2017/11/sorting-out-the-alabama-senate-election-possibilities-in-light-of-roy-moore

This plan is madness. If AL withdraws Moore but leaves him on the GOP ballot line and says that votes for him don't count, Jones wins easily against a write-in.

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2017, 09:28:47 PM »

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Sean Hannity doesn't know the difference between David and Solomon (the King who actually had 700 wives and 300 concubines).
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2017, 09:44:23 PM »

Strange running would be purely to torpedo Moore. Strange cannot win and probably knows that.

Honestly, IF Strange does jump in, this race is Lean Dem. Jones will get somewhere 40-43 of the vote either way, he just needs Moore to drop below that number, which splitting the GOP vote could make possible.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2017, 09:28:00 PM »

Moving the election date back would not actually solve any problems if Moore doesn't want to leave the race. He's already the GOP nominee.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 12:29:19 PM »

I think that Alabama would elect a socially conservative, economically populist Democrat.  Tax those latte-sipping elites in Manhattan and Hollywood to death, redistribute the money back to my family so my kids can get better health care.

There needs to be a Democratic wing that appeals to Southern whites - you can reframe it all.  I would advise all Democratic candidates in the South to really run faith-based campaigns and talk about issues within an evangelical framework.  For example, Creation Care for environmental protection.

It's a very hard sell, but there were Democrats in the olden days in the South that were not completely bought by special interests.  They were more populist and pro-consumer, pro-worker.  They were able to win and hold onto seats but they were traditionalists.  A lot of them were also segregationists.

Sometimes a party needs to give up some things to get a little of what it wants.  An Alabama Democratic senator will have to vote against abortion all of the time and even be very vocal about being pro-life.  There are cultural positions to take- for example, supporting Christian symbols on public property.  I don't see why there should be any fuss about having Biblical passages or the Ten Commandments in a state house or a courthouse.  Just let it go.

Make the fuss when there's a tax bill that's deliberately written for the wealthy.  Very few people in rural Alabama are represented by that bill.  It's a bill that will help Beverly Hills and the Upper East Side, not Alabama.

Good luck running that sort of candidate ina state where 90% of local Dems are black and vote in primaries. There already is an Alabama Democratic Party and they aren't eager to be thrown under the bus (nor should they be).
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 12:44:29 PM »

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-says-roy-moore-should-step-aside/

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This will change the minds of absolutely 0 Roy Moore supporters.

Does point towards a possible ejection from the Senate if elected, though.

I have my doubts that the Senate Rs would do anything other than welcome Moore with open arms.

Unless they think they can hold a new special election that will get them an R more keen to their agenda and leadership IMO

Ejecting him is really the best-case scenario for the GOP. Governor Ivey just reappoints Strange and we hold a second special in 2018, and the GOP gets its safe vote without having to have the whole "We have a pedophile in the caucus" issue.
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 03:28:38 PM »

Courtesy of Josh Barro:



Moore's signature now.



Message from 1977.
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