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Joseph Cao
Rep. Joseph Cao
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Junior Chimp
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« on: June 25, 2021, 12:06:56 AM »

I'll sponsor.

And Falterin, could you change the bill number to 30-17? We already have a HB 30-15.
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Joseph Cao
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2021, 01:05:16 AM »

Presuming that I am recognized as sponsor, so advocacy time!

I don't see this as a complete development by any means, but it is a step towards addressing a flaw in the policing system that we haven't historically looked here in Atlasia. I see this as basically a framework for changing some of the more egregious possible missteps within policing to complement things like the use of body cameras and addressing implicit bias and whatnot. My main concern with jurisdictional overlap was addressed in the Senate amendment process, but I'm happy to see any further thoughts the House might have on the matter.
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Joseph Cao
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2021, 12:58:32 AM »

"provide an oral warning to a person against whom deadly force is intended to be used before discharging a firearm, if providing the oral warning is safe to attempt."

I think we should go more in depth on when this is safe to attempt and when it's possibly not.



And for Point 1, are tasers considered firearms? What about batons?

Technically neither of them are firearms, nor do they pose the same level of lethality that firearms do, but obviously using tasers or batons come with their own risks. On the other hand, I'm fairly sure their use in de-escalation means that proper training to avoid those risks is a standard part of what we're establishing in clauses 3 and 4.

"Safe to attempt" here applies chiefly to the officer(s) and whether they are under threat from the other party, though I can imagine the other person being in lethal danger from elsewhere in such a situation.

(Bear in mind too that the broad confine of this bill means we are giving a fair bit of latitude in allowing law enforcement units to reform their existing protocols in matters like verbal confrontation, where my own knowledge is fairly limited and certainly academic.)
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Joseph Cao
Rep. Joseph Cao
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2021, 12:49:01 AM »


Unless the new Senators have points or issues to raise, I think we're good to move to a final vote.
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Joseph Cao
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2021, 12:50:45 AM »

Aye.
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