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« on: November 21, 2008, 05:42:47 PM »

Sections 6 and 7 need to be lost. I don't think they serve a useful purpose. It is an interesting bill, but voting attendance isn't the greatest. Maybe their should be a time limit for the governors to do a veto or they lose the right. There should be a requirement that a majority of the sitting governors is required to effect a veto. Having a vote of 1-0 just won't do. Tongue

Section 4 specifies a majority.
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2008, 12:04:09 PM »

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Are their five regions?

Yes.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2008, 08:29:48 PM »

     I accept, I guess. I wonder though, should the Council have any other powers besides that of veto?

My model was the Reichsrat, which did not (correct me if I'm wrong on this).
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2008, 09:10:28 PM »

     I accept, I guess. I wonder though, should the Council have any other powers besides that of veto?

My model was the Reichsrat, which did not (correct me if I'm wrong on this).

     I guessed that it could be designed as a sort of House of Lords. That's probably for the best, since the Governors are already the heads of their respective regions.

Exactly.

That aid, something could be worked out contingent to the nationalization of all Senate seats.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2008, 05:32:34 PM »

As a governor, I support this. I do wonder, however, if the only real affect of this will be that less legislation is passed and there's more gridlock. Do we want that?

Well, gridlock is fun.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2008, 08:03:20 PM »

The governors have to do something. But, on the other hand, do we really want a legislator who can't be defeated in an election (Verin)

(Sam Spade)
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2008, 04:50:41 PM »

I feel like this could very easily become like  the UN and that certain Governors *coughDukecough* can overrule perfectly legitamite things far too easily.
If there region felt so then it would be in their best interest.  What's with the 180 from being a moderate region right's guy to a liberal federal government guy?

Anyway, I support this idea wholeheartedly in a step to really show the power the regions should hold

In that case, would you be opposed to the abolition of regional seats?
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2008, 05:09:21 PM »


Why?
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2008, 05:40:28 PM »


They get that in the upper house.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2008, 05:48:38 PM »

     Nay.

Nay, it should be the vote of the majority of the regions. It should not turn on how many are sitting.

     If a region has no sitting Governor, could there be a reasonable method instituted by which to choose a temporary representative on the Council? I was thinking head of judiciary, except the Pacific & Midwest have none. Perhaps each region should have one citizen apply to be an "official federal stand-in." Grin

That's very rare.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2008, 06:30:33 PM »

Can we see the current text?
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2008, 05:21:18 PM »

Excellent.

This was the compromise I was looking for.
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