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Хahar 🤔
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« on: July 24, 2008, 07:50:47 PM »

Weimar, not Wiemar.

How about parties from circa 1924?

  • Social Democrats
  • Nationalists
  • Centrists
  • Populists
  • Communists
  • Democrats

Some of the names are decieving. Parties from left to right (roughly):

  • Communists
  • Social Democrats
  • Democrats
  • Centrists
  • Populists
  • Nationalists
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Xahar
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 07:55:46 PM »

Weimar, not Wiemar.

How about parties from circa 1924?

  • Social Democrats
  • Nationalists
  • Centrists
  • Populists
  • Communists
  • Democrats

Some of the names are decieving. Parties from left to right (roughly):

  • Communists
  • Social Democrats
  • Democrats
  • Centrists
  • Populists
  • Nationalists
That works but I think a true fascist party would be nice. How about the Economy Party or like I said an alternate history where Hitler dies in jail and Strasser reforms the Nazi Party.

The Nationalists were farther to the right than any mainstream party in modern Europe.


How about the Democrats?
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Xahar
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008, 08:04:37 PM »

Meh that is true Xahar but I still don't think they fit the mold of a fascist party more of a radically conservative/reactionary one. The People's Party would also work for you Hashemite.

What is with the anti-DHP attitude?

I know nothing about them other than that they loved the Guelphs.
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Xahar
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 08:17:46 PM »


Sure.
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Xahar
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 11:16:05 PM »

Finally, a simulation that appeals to me!

Do we have a bourgeois liberal party?

The DVP (Populists), who were right-liberals, and essentially the party of capitalism. The DDP (Democrats) were left-liberals, but that's taken by Hashemite.

ILV, I suggest the Nationalists.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2008, 11:10:01 AM »

Although the DHP/Guelph Party was basically a conservative party with a twist of genuine federalism. Strongest in the northern, then very rural, traditional parts of Hanover (now northeastern Lower Saxony - north of a line from Wolfsburg to Bremen basically) it was originally set up to protest the Prussian annexation of Hanover (but not German unification) and especially Prussian seizure of the Guelph family fortune (48 million Marks = 2.4 mio pounds sterling. An incredible amount of money back in 1868.) In later decades people mostly voted DHP because they had always done so or because their local squire was related to the DHP candidate etc.
After 1918, they once again called for a dismantling of the state of Prussia - a perfectly reasonable demand IMHO - or at least the turning of Hanover into a separate state. They actually forced a referendum on the latter issue in 1924, but lost the referendum vote itself.

So it was sort of a northern BVP?
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2008, 11:24:59 AM »

The BVP only split from the Center Party in 1920, over the issue of whether to enthusiastically support or viciously denounce the Weimar Constitution. And unlike the DHP, it won majorities across most of Bavaria - insanely large ones in some parts until the Nazis came along.

Yes, I've noticed the majorities. Almost as large as the majorities the Center took in Hohenzollern. The BVP and Center ran a joint list in the Palatinate, correct?
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2008, 05:40:26 PM »

We need to start this out. Any rule ideas so far?

Consult Hashemite.
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2008, 04:54:50 PM »

I would support the Nationalist Party and Strasser. Hitler's party is a bit extreme even for me. LOL.

Strasser and the DNVP weren't the same, nor even that close. Strasser took the letter "S" in "NSDAP" more seriously than Hitler.
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