Libertarianism and Morality

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2. No hijacking the thread (i.e. global warming, the election, abortion, etc.)

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Taxation is not theft.  You choose to live in this society.  This society chooses to elect politicians that enact taxes.  Taxation is voluntary, as much as we hate it.  If you don't want to pay taxes, there are plenty of disorganized societies in Africa that are much easier to avoid being taxed by.

Society existed before government did. Government was formed to protect individuals' life, liberty, and property, not the other way around. If the government prevents me from paying taxes or paying someone else to protect my life, liberty, and property, then it cannot be said to be a voluntary agreement.

Nope. Government is society.

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Taxation is not theft.  You choose to live in this society.  This society chooses to elect politicians that enact taxes.  Taxation is voluntary, as much as we hate it.  If you don't want to pay taxes, there are plenty of disorganized societies in Africa that are much easier to avoid being taxed by.

Society existed before government did. Government was formed to protect individuals' life, liberty, and property, not the other way around. If the government prevents me from paying taxes or paying someone else to protect my life, liberty, and property, then it cannot be said to be a voluntary agreement.

Nope. Government is society.

Maybe in Marxist societies, but nowhere else. Government is formed to protect the products of society (property) as well as the individuals of society (life and liberty). To say that government is society completely overlooks the works of Locke, Jefferson, Bastiat, Paine, etc.

But since it is impossible to divorce them, they are for all intents and purposes the same. No society has existed without government.