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« on: January 13, 2008, 10:13:03 PM »

On this 35th anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision, I would like to share my views on the issue of abortion.
 
Life begins at the point of conception. 
According to whom?

 No one can deny that after a human being is conceived it will develop into the very same being as those debating this issue.
There is a difference between ACTUAL life and POTENTIAL life.  But I would agree that both are precious.

  What astounds me is that those who favor abortion went through an identical development stage as the being they are condemning to death.

I can't think of a single person who favors abortion.  I know I don't.  But I see a horrendously slippery slope and very dangerous precedent in making it a criminal act.  Tell me.  How do you think abortive mothers should be punished?  If we are going to make something illegal, there has to be a consequence for breaking the law.

  Would these very same people agree that a similiar choice should have been made about their own existence? 
Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, no.  But that's not the issue.  The issue is making it illegal.  And then, what to do with all the violators involved -- the mother, the doctor, the nurses and assistants, the person who schedules the appointment, whoever pays for the abortion....got room in your county jail?

Abortion today is used primarily as a birth control of convenience because people are too self-centered to take precautions. 
Couple things:  1.  A large number of the people who oppose abortion rights also oppose the right to birth control. Other tepidly support the right to SOME birth control, but for married people only.  2.  The anti - choice folks, and I know because I used to be one -- I even picketed in the 80's -- , love to call it "a convenience".  Seriously -- think about that.  Is it "convenient" to have your guts sucked out?  Is it "convenient" to walk past protesters, some of whom are verbally abusive and intimidating?  More convenient than having a child who could be another little tax break?  Or another little welfare check? Childbirth hurts like hell, so does abortion.  Both come with terrible psychological consequences.  Post-partem depression and post-abortion stress syndrome are both very real.  Me and my house?  We always choose life.  Abortion was never an option in our home.  But have I the right to make you follow my ethic?  Maybe I do -- but then comes that pesky little question of punishment again.

They prefer their own pleasurable self-indulgence over the care and sanctity of the life they created. 
Oh, you mean sex.  Would you be okay then if they used the pill and a condom?  Or is there another issue you're hinting at?  Would you like to legislate chastity next?  Hey, I'm a Dad.  Believe me, I'd find that VERY attractive! LOL   ('Cept it wouldn't work anymore than the bans on abortion worked before Roe.)

 What ever happened to taking responsibility for one's actions in this country? 
Right.  I agree.  Make love, then be prepared to live with the love that you make.  That's how I was raised and it's how we will raise our daughter.  But not everyone has that same ethic.  Should they go to prison because they don't?  Pay a fine?  What?

Is it too much to ask a woman who has conceived to place the child into adoption? 
Be very careful here, my friend.  In my case, you a dialoguing with a man who had great difficulty fathering a child biologically...whose wife could not carry a fetus to term.  We ended up adopting.  So naturally -- we consider women who place their children for adoption to be HEROES.  We love such women and thank God everyday for them.  But keep some other things in mind...

Our country makes it very hard to adopt children domestically.  Other countries often make it very hard to adopt internationally.  It's bloody expensive.  In our case, about 20 thousand dollars.  Private adoptions can run even more. So yeah -- by all means -- place your child for adoption.  But that child stands a good chance of being in foster care for years after birth. Are you willing to pay the freight in terms of higher taxes?  Are you willing to pay higher taxes so that more good families can afford to adopt?  Are you willing to pay higher taxes so the birth mother can receive the necessary prenatal care to ensure she delivers a healthy baby?  I love adoption.  I love that there is a very modest tax credit, largely thanks to President Clinton.  I love that Senator Chris Dodd fought hard to make sure adoptive parents were included in the Family and Medical Leave Act.  But if you want more people to adopt, make it more affordable.


 Nine months of discomfort is nothing compared to life in prison for voluntary manslaughter! 
So you support charging abortive mothers with voluntary manslaughter?  In Indiana, I believe that's 20 years in prison.  Involuntary MS is eight years.  And how about the doctor?  Death penalty?

 Does the father of the child have a say in this? 
There's lots he can say.  Starting with, "let's not have sex". Or, "are you on the pill"?  And, "I brought a condom and I know how to properly use it."  

He can also choose to say, "I will support you while you are pregant."  And, "I will pay child support after the baby is born, until it is adopted".


And what about the constitution of the United States?  Are not all people conceived in this country deserving of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?  I believe abortion is a crime against humanity and should be outlawed.   We need to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision and get back to cherishing life in this country.  For a country that murders it's children cannot be far from self destruction.

You REALLY want to cherish life?  Start with ACTUAL life.  Like crack babies.  Your local hospital probably has a program that allows volunteers to feed and cuddle crack babies.  How about writing your Senator and Congressman, asking them to support expansion of the WIC program?  That helps protect life.  What about fighting for better pre and post-natal care?  

You care about human life at all stages, or just the fetal stage?



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