NFL 2011 Season Discussion

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Why should we forget it? It happened. They used a lively ball in the '20s and '30s, too, but we don't throw out what Babe Ruth did.

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Why should we forget it? It happened. They used a lively ball in the '20s and '30s, too, but we don't throw out what Babe Ruth did.

As a Cardinals fan with integrity I'm embarrassed by the steroids era and the part my team played in it.  I'd like to forget it.

With integrity? What does that even mean? Do Rogers Hornsby's Triple Crowns also embarrass you? He played for the Cardinals, too.

Why are NFL cheerleaders only earning 50$ per game ?

That's about the minimum wage when they cheer for 5 hours ...

I always thought a NFL cheerleader would earn something like 3000-5000$ a month - at least !

They also make money doing other events on the side, but it's not a high-paying job.

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Andy Lee had a 60-yard punt to the St. Louis 5 called back because of offsetting penalties. He promptly punted the ball 64 yards to the St. Louis 1. He's pretty good.

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Andy Lee had a 60-yard punt to the St. Louis 5 called back because of offsetting penalties. He promptly punted the ball 64 yards to the St. Louis 1. He's pretty good.

     Yeah, our special teams is amazing. Our defense was surprisingly weak today, though. I suppose you can't ask guys to try too hard against an opponent with ten fewer wins than you when there are bigger games to prepare for ahead.

The Rams had more rushing touchdowns against the 49ers yesterday than every other team combined.

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That game doesn't really count, since the Packers had nothing to play for. Nobody's gone to the Superdome and won all year; it would take a better team than the Lions to do it, methinks.

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The Saints didn't look real good yesterday, which is reassuring. They're not going to win at the Stick if they play like that. The 49ers should definitely be the favorites next Saturday.

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That game was awesome.

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I could see the Patriots' pass defense giving up 300 yards next week.

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The Steelers' pass defense when it isn't trying is probably better than the Patriots' pass defense when it is trying.

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Alex Smith>you

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This is actually happening. The Niners are favorites to go to the Super Bowl. Amazing.

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I'm a lot more scared of the Ravens than the Patriots. I'm not too concerned that the 49ers lost to the Ravens, since they only had three days off and had to cross three time zones, but that game was ugly; Alex Smith was sacked nine times, and Jim Harbaugh apparently never considered calling a screen pass. The Patriots have no defense. I think they can handle that.

When the Niners won in Week 1, I was disappointed because it hurt their chances at Andrew Luck, so this is cool.

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I don't understand what would make anyone predict that the Giants will win this game. Is it that they won nine games and the 49ers won thirteen? Is it that they already played the 49ers and lost? Or is it that they'll be playing at Candlestick Park?

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How are they "the hot team"? By winning four games in a row? So have the 49ers.

In the past twenty years, the Giants have only won playoff games on the road in one season: 2007. That's not a "tendency" to go on a run, that's one example.

You can point to your example of one inferior team that won, or we can consider all the better teams that have won when they played teams that were worse than them.

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I don't understand what would make anyone predict that the Giants will win this game. Is it that they won nine games and the 49ers won thirteen?

The regular season does not matter at this point. Just ask the Packers, who were 15-1 in the regular season and 0-1 in the post-season.

And yet none of that changes what the regular season shows; the 49ers were significantly better than the Giants.

Is it that they already played the 49ers and lost? Or is it that they'll be playing at Candlestick Park?

Go ask the Packers what home field advantage means. The 49ers beat the Giants earlier in the season, but that was when the Giants were cold.

The 49ers, meanwhile, were effectively without Frank Gore. Yet they weren't cold, because they're a very good team.

Did you not watch the Packers-Giants game? I am sorry, but Alex Smith is in a world of trouble unless that defense and running game really step up for him for four quarters.

So, then, what they've been doing all year.

In the past twenty years, the Giants have only won playoff games on the road in one season: 2007. That's not a "tendency" to go on a run, that's one example.

One, who cares about the past twenty years? Phil Simms and Steve Young have nothing to do with this upcoming match-up. What matters is what the current players on the roster have done in the past, specifically this post-season. Secondly, your number is incorrect as evidenced by the win against Green Bay yesterday. Furthermore, the Giants won all four road games in 2007 (if you count the Super Bowl as a road game), and have now handed the Packers two losses at home in the past four years. I do not think any other franchise has ever accomplished either of these feats.

What happened twenty years ago is only marginally less relevant than what happened in 2007; the Giants aren't playing the Patriots now. Your post did convince me that the Giants beat the Packers yesterday. It didn't tell me why the 49ers will lose to a vastly inferior team.

How are they "the hot team"? By winning four games in a row? So have the 49ers.

The Niners haven't had their backs against the wall like the Giants.

I'd say that they had their backs against the wall in that fourth quarter, but you're right; it hasn't happened very often, because the 49ers are a really good team, and so they don't end up in those situations.

In the past twenty years, the Giants have only won playoff games on the road in one season: 2007. That's not a "tendency" to go on a run, that's one example.

One big example and this season is looking awfully similar to the 2007 season. 

This season feels like 1981 to me. Now my narrative is just as good!

Of course, this discussion is pointless, but it just annoys me because the same things were said about the Giants when they won the World Series, and I have a lot more confidence in this team than I did in that one. Every year, we hear how our team actually sucks and some team from the East Coast is so much better. I'm tired of it.

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I don't understand what would make anyone predict that the Giants will win this game. Is it that they won nine games and the 49ers won thirteen?

The regular season does not matter at this point. Just ask the Packers, who were 15-1 in the regular season and 0-1 in the post-season.

And yet none of that changes what the regular season shows; the 49ers were significantly better than the Giants.

What, the same regular season that "shows" the Packers were significantly better than the Giants (and 49ers, for that matter)? The same regular season that "showed" the Packers were unbeatable at home? Go tell the 2007 Patriots, Super Bowl losers, that they are the best team ever by virtue of being the only 16-0 team in history. Any given Sunday, man. This is why we have a post-season...

Are you saying that the 49ers aren't better than the Giants? The better team usually wins.

The 49ers, meanwhile, were effectively without Frank Gore. Yet they weren't cold, because they're a very good team.

They're a good team with an AMAZING coach. That coach is the reason for the HUGE turn-around. Don't get me wrong: I like the 49ers in the future, but I do not think this is their year. They have a little bit more maturing to do.

Was 2007 not the Giants' year?

What happened twenty years ago is only marginally less relevant than what happened in 2007;

You totally discount Eli's experience over Alex Smith's, not to mention a lot of vets on defense who are also still with the team? I mean, come on...

Yeah, I do. Before 2007, Eli Manning's experience in the playoffs consisted of two losses. Before last year, Aaron Rodgers's was just one game, which he lost. It didn't matter when they beat Brett Favre and Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger. I don't see why it would matter now.

It seems to me that the teams that win over and over win because they're good, not because they're experienced.

It didn't tell me why the 49ers will lose to a vastly inferior team.

The Giants are on fire (shutting out the Falcons on D, and handing Green Bay their first loss at home in 500-something days or something like that); the 49ers are not. The Giants are experienced; the 49ers are not. Momentum and experience count.

I'll need proof to believe that momentum and experience count.

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I can't wait! Then it'll be on to number six.

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Alex Smith's not an elite quarterback, but he doesn't make mistakes and try to force things when they aren't there. If there's one thing I'm absolutely not worried about, it's interceptions. They're not going to happen.

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I was really annoyed when Pittsburgh got that sixth one.

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lol niners

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And yet their defense was still terrible.

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Of course I agree with that, with the exception of the Eagles hate. I can't say I care about the Eagles at all.

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What Michael Vick did was unrelated to football, unlike this.