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elcorazon
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« on: August 20, 2008, 04:41:34 PM »

Obama's lead is shrinking everywhere.

Implosion, I say.

Obama has gone from (sustained, he was higher at points) about +3 to about +0.5.  It's bad, very bad, for his campaign, but it's not an "implosion."
maybe not, but I think McCain is even or ahead at this point and likely to win.
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2008, 09:07:48 AM »
« Edited: August 21, 2008, 10:08:45 AM by elcorazon »

Obama's lead is shrinking everywhere.

Implosion, I say.

Obama has gone from (sustained, he was higher at points) about +3 to about +0.5.  It's bad, very bad, for his campaign, but it's not an "implosion."
maybe not, but I think McCain is even or ahead at this point and likely to win.
Seriously? That sounds a bit mano-depressive to me, given how optimistic you used to be...lighten up, I still hold Obama as the favourite. Wink

If this poll is spot-on, McCain is ahead nationally. So I suspect it's off by a point or two. But the race is pretty much tied now, nationally, I'm pretty sure of that.
I haven't been optimistic since the Wright story broke.  You must be confusing me with someone else.  This country is too stupid to vote for a black guy that they fear.  And once the Republicans are done drumming their message into the public, with the help of the MSM, Obama will struggle to carry many of the swing states he had been leading in.  I look for McCain to win, and for this country to continue into the sh**tter.

Seemed like a good idea, till greed got in the way.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2008, 10:10:08 AM »

Walter.  I believe there is evil in the world.  And I believe you embody such evil.  As such I will go to the gates of hell to smoke you out and destroy you and your evil hordes.
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2008, 10:24:54 AM »

Walter.  I believe there is evil in the world.  And I believe you embody such evil.  As such I will go to the gates of hell to smoke you out and destroy you and your evil hordes.

the obama people and supporters have consistently said that the old rules dont apply.  they are drawing a new map.  50 state strategy!
have you always been such a smug bastard?  seriously.  have you?  just to piss you off, I really hope obama does win North Dakota and Alaska (not that he will). 

Not to mention that it was actually Howard Dean who began the 50 state approach, not Obama.

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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2008, 11:03:55 AM »

Not to mention that it was actually Howard Dean who began the 50 state approach, not Obama.

Howard Dean started the 50 state stuff, but Obama has been following it too.  (Game changer!  We're changing the game!)

Which is ridiculous, because the '50 state strategy' actually makes sense on a non winner-take-all basis, but not in a Presidential race.
I believe there are 2 major points to a game changing strategy.  One is to win down ticket races.  The other is that it challenges the assumption that the country and it's people will divide just as they have in recent elections in this coming election.  In other words, let's TRY to do well everywhere and then hone in at the end (or the middle ) where we feel we will get the most bang for the buck.

The idea that Obama's strategy is really markedly outside the box in this area is overstated, I believe.  Maybe he won't compete in North Dakota.  But do you honestly believe he's spent a significant amount of money to make an attempt to do so?  And what if he manages to win in Alaska or Indiana or North Carolina?  Does it really hurt to make an effort and see what happens?  Could be he loses all the noncompetitive states from 2004 that he is trying to convert.  But focusing on that whenever a poll comes in is just being ass.  There's no other explanation.  Walter's no better than Vanderblubb in that regard. 
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2008, 12:07:43 PM »

Not to mention that it was actually Howard Dean who began the 50 state approach, not Obama.

Howard Dean started the 50 state stuff, but Obama has been following it too.  (Game changer!  We're changing the game!)

Which is ridiculous, because the '50 state strategy' actually makes sense on a non winner-take-all basis, but not in a Presidential race.
I believe there are 2 major points to a game changing strategy.  One is to win down ticket races.  The other is that it challenges the assumption that the country and it's people will divide just as they have in recent elections in this coming election.  In other words, let's TRY to do well everywhere and then hone in at the end (or the middle ) where we feel we will get the most bang for the buck.

The idea that Obama's strategy is really markedly outside the box in this area is overstated, I believe.  Maybe he won't compete in North Dakota.  But do you honestly believe he's spent a significant amount of money to make an attempt to do so?  And what if he manages to win in Alaska or Indiana or North Carolina?  Does it really hurt to make an effort and see what happens?  Could be he loses all the noncompetitive states from 2004 that he is trying to convert.  But focusing on that whenever a poll comes in is just being ass.  There's no other explanation.  Walter's no better than Vanderblubb in that regard. 

What the hell does Obama's strategy have to do with anything?  He's losing because he's black.

your trolling is starting to get old.
more on point and logical and less old than waltermitty's though.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2008, 01:36:06 PM »

That's a good point. I hadn't thought of that.

I'm the only regular on this forum that actually lives in NH, so that is my educated opinion based on my knowledge of the state and its politics. 

You can cry yourself to sleep when McCain loses.
I agree with your ultimate result, but your logic here is reminding me of Phil in PA, which is not a good thing.
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