France 2012: Official Results Thread

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allez.................SALUT!!!

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lol...'Hollande Président', cute.

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Can't wait for the right-wing landslide in the 2014 regional elections.

Yeah, the point would be to know which party to lead the Right (Far-Right?)

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lol...all Hollande family interviewed on France2...Ségolène, Thomas, awww...

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What about the "Sarkozy voter looking at 4pm Belgium news on the Internet saying Hollande leads by 53-47 and thinks: Oh sh**t, this is so close I should help my guy in the final hours ! and then Sarko-stay-at home voter goes voting so that Hollande leads the first exit poll by only 51.9-48.1 anymore" factor ?

lol...1 percent in 2 hours??

1 percent able to that for...the most hated man in France??

Would be surprising to say the least...

A sad day for France and for the world.

Keep this sentence for the 17th of May rather, and overall for 2014 elections if you can be that patient too...

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I love the 'The President has left the Elysée' routine the French media perform on election night. What's the added value of some motorbike-riding camera risking his life trying to film the tainted windows of Sarko's car?

It's a 1995 France2 pattern, and then it took all other TVs, ah well...

Everybody find it stupid but everybody would be surprised it doesn't happen I guess ^^

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lol, Morano and Dati's face...allez...SALUT!

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Does it really matter who runs France?  I mean, isn't the international economic/debt leash on it so tight now, that the government's only big decision is what color of pencils to use?  Just asking.

I guess the result of this elections matters a bit for French, since they have been about 81,5% to vote...

The main point was to oust a guy.

So if Hollande messes up what are the chances we see Sarkozy again in 2017?

Nah. Over. Or it would be surprising. It's like asking if Bush 43 could come back...

But amusingly, while the two runners of 2007 ('Nicolas et Ségolène' have been beaten, their 'ideas' have won, especially Nicolas' ones...)

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Totally empty speech of Sarkozy, ah but well...'il nous aime!'...

France doesn't have much more running room these days. Anyway, I remember when Mitterrand first won, and had to chuck most of his program pretty quickly, when the Franc started collapsing. The US gets away with more because of its reserve currency status.

France is kinda 'the half' of the 1st World economic area, EU, of which the 1st power, Germany, trade is very dependent, the 2nd diplomatic power in the world in term of embassies, and the third military industry in the world too, while it's not the beginning and the end of everything, for the power that is still left the govts nowadays, I guess it matters a bit still...

That being said, yes, as long as Germany doesn't move, nothing will improve a lot. The coming days in Europe will be interesting to monitor...

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52.67% for Hollande in Sarthe.
He takes La Reunion with 71%
53.8% for Sarko in Meause

Do all of these little provincial numbers fit the pattern as it were?  Numbers without patterns are like shoes without socks.

lol, someone needs something to bite.

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You won. Your guy gets to run things.

Nah, they didn't win. Sarkozy lost. That's the problem we are facing.

The only winner of this election didn't succeed to make the 2nd run, this time.

Also, let's wait the big cities and IdF, most of them would help Hollande.

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Likely beating Mitterrand's margin is a Pyrrhic victory? Are you serious?

So, even people abroad make the error to compare it to Mitterand's victory...

All those people forcing themselves to try relive 1981 on the Place de la Bastille right now are, well...

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The winner of this election is speaking right now on France2.

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Saint-Quentin (Aisne, Xavier Bertand's city):

Hollande 54,2
Sarkozy 45,8

and doing worse than Sarko had actually done in 2007, is a pyrrhic victory.

Yup, I would have hope a 53-47 for the symbol only.

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YAAAYYYY YAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY THE LEEEEEEEEEEEEEFTTTTTTTT WOOOOOOOOOOONNN!!

So, what do we have on the biggest TV for this electoral election to live that??

Still Ségolène and Thomas Hollande, over and over, saying how they are happy...

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Fillon 'kept' Sablé-sur-Sarthe (Sarthe):

Sarkozy 52,9
Hollande 47,1

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...given that the exit polls in France are just so apparently marvelous.

They used to be still better in the preceding years, but most of them seem to remain decent.

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Sarkozy doing big in Haute-Marne (54,4) and Meuse (53,8), which would mean that the FN vote was more genuine there than a anti-Sarkozy effect.

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Correze is my favorite place on earth tonight.

Wow, yes, bigger than Creuse.

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Sarkozy out, now all those people of which the main job was to hit on him will have to, eventually, try to do some 'politics' now...

They have totally irresponsibly put all problems on Sarkozy during years and years (lol, kinda even before than he was president), and promised (and still promising right now with Hollande speech) a lot of change only thanks to the removal of a man. Well, thankfully Hollande remains more humble than Sarkozy was in 2007, but still, they shouldn't play like they did with the problems and the hopes of people, Sarkozy played a lot with xenophobia feeling, the Left played a lot with the hopes and problems of people, if they can't have a success, the backlash could be terrible.

That being said, it's indeed pleasant(!) to see all those poor bad clowns out.

I don't see why anyone's making a big deal about this. The differences between Hollande and Sarkozy so far as policies goes are infinitesimal, and we knew that Hollande was going to win the minute he won the runoff.

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...get the feeling of getting rid of Bush 43. Then that's the French version.

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lol Flanby will be President. Haha.

Hollande can actually (and purposedly) be funny (and doesn't need 20 guys to write his jokes , he makes it alone), well, the main good thing of this election might be the psychological effect, oh gosh, would become far less tense, at least a for a few coming days...

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I have a question- I read Hollande divorced Segolene Royal...did that cause any dynamic? Did Royal endorse him?

She surprisingly turned sane, and yes, did, she even has been one his biggest fighters.

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Castres is always so national:

Hollande 51,2
Sarkozy 48,8

Oh, Sarkozy just confirmed he will never run for Président again, ah well, if in the future we get MLP as the biggest figurehead fo the Right/Far-Right, who knows, maybe a lot of people call him to 'pleaaase come back!', hmm, would still be surprising, nobody imagines calling Bush 43 back, right? Then, it would be defnitely over for him, once again:

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Where does Hollande stand on the immigration issue.  Is he for keeping things similar to now or for more immigration?  (I'm guessing he's not for less immigration per year).  Just curious in that he clearly won the vote of hundreds of thousands of MLP voters today, and since immigration is one key factor in the NF vote was wondering how he appealed to them.

MLP definitely won the battle of ideas (with a big help of Sarkozy), PS inflexed its traditional positions on immigration, at least in the rhetoric, we have to see what happens in real now, and Hollande globally said something like he would control immigration more and just take what we need in term of employment.

I don't know if there is a serious analysis about the actual report of MLP voters so far, but the point being that she played a lot on the defeat of the Right, so some people might have done a strategical vote, but not sure it would be that big...

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Where does Hollande stand on the immigration issue.  Is he for keeping things similar to now or for more immigration?  (I'm guessing he's not for less immigration per year).  Just curious in that he clearly won the vote of hundreds of thousands of MLP voters today, and since immigration is one key factor in the NF vote was wondering how he appealed to them.

All I really remember about this is that both candidates are ridiculously racist against

No, you will never find any racist word of attitude from Hollande.