Anti-minaret poster campaign divides Swiss cities

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The German parts of Switzerland are too much like Austria.

Nah, Switzerland is more homogeneous than that:



UDC's Poster campaign for the local elections, here against a project of public transportation that would permit more easy moving between Geneva and the French border city of Annemasse.

The poster says, literal translation:

The CEVA? [name of the project]

A new transportation mean for the scum of Annemasse!

Let's expel the foreign criminals!

Let's not offer them a new access to Geneva!

Let's vote UDC!

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That is one twisted ad. La racaille d'Annemasse. What have Annemassiens done to deserve that?

For UDC I would seem to be as if the only fact to be French foreigner is enough to be some scum.

These f**kers! They work in Switzerland, so bigger wages than in France and live in France, cheaper life's cost than in Switzerland.

What UDC forgets to say being that most of French who work in Switzerland this is in small jobs that Swiss wouldn't necessarily do, plus they also forget to say that it works in both sens now, more and more Swiss come to live in France for life's cost, while keeping their job in Switzerland.

In short it is a so common story. Which would show that, and it was the first thing that I said in this thread, French-Swiss and German-Swiss can sometimes be not so different...

Yay for the Italian-Swisses!! (which would be a paradox...)
 

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A confirmation that French and German Swiss can sometimes be close and more and more today it seems:

Those who had promoted the ad I posted before here have doubled their sits in the cantonal election of Genève yesterday, becoming the 2nd party equal with Greens...

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How pénible.

And what surprises me it is all journalists/commentators opening on "oh! surprising!".

And lol at the mix between Islam/Muslims/Quran/Saudi Arabia/Salafist/Other things expressed here by a poster.

And far less lol to Xavier Bertrand (figurehead of the UMP) directly going on: "yes they can have mosques, but, do they really need minarets after all??". How would I call that? Ah, yes, slightly sickening.

One more time identity issues are dooming the minds of people. Oh f***...

And me, even before that I heard about the existence of that referendum, a few months ago, who was in Limousin, going through the countryside, and, telling me, "oh, how lovely would these villages be with mosques with minarets along with the churches".

My point of views make that I wouldn't be particularly glad of the expansion of monotheism, then of Islam, and now, because of silliness of some guys who feel under siege of Muslims but who are in fact only under siege of their TV images and of torrents of words of which i don't particularly like the choice and combination, i find myself advocating for them, just because this is a question of right and of tolerance. It will be hard for us to give some lessons in that realm if we speak about notions that we would control less and less.

Fear makes you being silly, especially when you don't really know what you fear about. And, you know, I'm fed up with this...

Yes, pénible.

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Well, yes. The issue is, beyond intolerance, xenophobia, and non-equal rights in practicing a religion since churches have bell towers, clearly in what it shows of Europe.

That's just Switzerland, and for a few years (according to what I've heard, their psychological problems there really began when they welcomed Kosovars from Kosovo's war) this country is far to be a model in that realm, thus my non-surprise of this result, and my surprise of the surprise of the whole journalists (well, at least those of mainstream media).

I consider it a hard shot of Europe in any cases. Now all far-rightist populists around here feel more free and encouraged to to give some more voice to their anti-Muslim propaganda, yes, Holland comes here as an example, but also Denmark, the usual Austria, Italia might certainly enjoy too, not sure about what's about in Britain, and well our FN enjoyed it all the same (though, I must say this one remains the most decent throughout Europe, and I'm glad the far-rightist populism against Muslim hasn't a lot of voice here), countries of Eastern Europe might enjoy too, and so forth, that stuff is trendy.

And what will happen if EU court or Swiss court or whatever says this is illegal. Double force for populists they will come around yelling that there is no freedom and no democracy, that nobody listens to the people, etc, and people who are inclined to think like them will feel this way, and far-right feeling will grow...

In short, that's such a f**king thing.

The only 'positive' aspect of stuffs like that it is that effectively shows how is the situation, and it gives some expression, some reality, to an existing feeling. And well, that's always better to see something if it actually exists than if it remains hidden, if you wanna treat a problem, you have to acknowledge its existence. Though, yes, it hurts.

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Can someone who knows more about the area tell me about how they think Swiss Catholics differentiate with Swiss Protestants (roughly equal populations) about this issue?

A results map was linked to earlier in the thread (before all the nasty stuff... you know...) and here be maps of religion, language and so on...

http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/en/index/regionen/thematische_karten/maps/bevoelkerung/sprachen_religionen.html

I don't think religion played a large role, most of the deciding factors were wealth, social liberalism or number of immigrants.

Outside of these criteria, I personally tend to think the most important could be a kind of paranoiac fear carried on by all what people can see and hear in their media.