Ilhan Omar home wrecker

[dead0man]

my favorite part is that the guy looks exactly like the douchebag he is...I was expecting some Jason Mamoa looking mothertrucker, but he looks a lot more like Andy Dick.

[dead0man]

Maybe because conservatives keep talking about "family" and "traditional" values, which makes them even more a hypocrites when caught with their proverbial pants down?

Personally I really don't care about what anybody does in private, as long as no law is broken, conservative or liberal. Policy is what matters most when it comes to making one's political choices (I'd rather have a competent leader with "questionable" personal life, than somebody with spotless personal record but unfit for the job). But vocal hypocrites sure deserve to be called out because they're not just cheating on their spouses, but on the public as well.

you're not alone, many people don't care about integrity unless they can use it as a hammer to bash the other side

[dead0man]

I think a politician's integrity in the matters of carrying out her or his duties is far more important than personal "morals", as long as no law is being broken. I admit of not having been familiar with the Omar's case. If this is just a case of her sleeping with a married man then it's completely irrelevant. If the law was broken in the course of the affair, then it's a diffrent manner and I'd expect her to be hold accountable.

if a person is willing to stand in front of their friends and family and lie to all their faces (and their god if they have one), what the hell would they be willing to do to the chumps that vote for them?

As of the matter specifically addressed, if we have a politician running on "traditional values" and using his official position to impose said "values" on the others, and then being caught with his pants down, then it's no longer a matter of "private morals". I'm not saying such person should resign or be ejected from office for this, but the voters would have a right to feel conned, and we obviously will have a right to mock him as a hypocrite.

indeed, that is much worse.  But it doesn't make the person who doesn't preach family values any better when they do it.

[dead0man]

I think a politician's integrity in the matters of carrying out her or his duties is far more important than personal "morals", as long as no law is being broken. I admit of not having been familiar with the Omar's case. If this is just a case of her sleeping with a married man then it's completely irrelevant. If the law was broken in the course of the affair, then it's a diffrent manner and I'd expect her to be hold accountable.

if a person is willing to stand in front of their friends and family and lie to all their faces (and their god if they have one), what the hell would they be willing to do to the chumps that vote for them?

As of the matter specifically addressed, if we have a politician running on "traditional values" and using his official position to impose said "values" on the others, and then being caught with his pants down, then it's no longer a matter of "private morals". I'm not saying such person should resign or be ejected from office for this, but the voters would have a right to feel conned, and we obviously will have a right to mock him as a hypocrite.

indeed, that is much worse.  But it doesn't make the person who doesn't preach family values any better when they do it.

It makes them vastly less of a hypocrite, which is markedly better, relatively speaking.

sure, if you want to set a really low bar for integrity....I think we should and can do better than people willing to lie to their mother's face.  El Duce wasn't as bad as Hitler, relatively speaking.

[dead0man]

We have a bit of strawman here, because there's a far cry from having an affair and being a murderous dictator.

come on man, obviously I wasn't saying they were the same.  It was just an extreme example of "relatively speaking".

Look guys, I understand that I'm in the minority in caring about our politician's integrity.  Clearly most people only care when it's the other side that's doing it and are much more willing to ignore it when it's done on their side.  Just like most other bad things.  The other side is "bought off" by special interests, my side is "invested in" by like minded NGOs.  My side left the state house so they wouldn't have to vote on a corrupt bill, the other side left the house because they lost an election and don't want to suffer the results of that.  When their guy marries a secretary it's a disgusting abuse of power, when my guy does it it's true love.  When we come up with motivations in our head, it's easy to think the worst of the other guy and the best for your own.  It's human nature.  Just like adultery, unkempt beards and hating people that don't look like you.  And we should try to be better.

[dead0man]

I'm speaking in general terms too, not specifically about this case.  If there were overlaps with Omar, it was unintentional.