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« on: August 16, 2018, 11:22:32 PM »

not wrong
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2018, 06:20:53 AM »

Somehow as absolutely horrible as something is in reality, people are always able to find a way of making an absurd hyperbole around it.

There are ways of being appropriately harsh about this without denigrating and dismissing every other aspect of the Catholic church and the priests and lay people within it who are standing up against this and calling the hierarchy to account.

It's also not clear to me exactly how much worse the Catholic church was in this time frame when most of these events occurred than other institutions.  It may have been, but how do we know?  Others shouldn't be cocky without holding up their own groups to scrutiny.
what other institution could even come close, is there some other group that the Catholic church is in competition with?  College sports organizations?  They've had 2 high profile cases in the last decade, horrible.  Lets say it's really bad and there are ten times more of these things going on that we don't know about and lets be generous to "the Church" and say every single case of abuse in the Church has been uncovered, the numbers still aren't close....at all.

I guess I also don't understand the attachment to the church...do you really think being a Catholic is the ONLY way to get to Jesus?  That's what we were taught in S.Baptist circles (that Catholics don't play well with other Christian organizations)...but we were taught a lot sh**t about Catholics and only some of it ended up being true, is this one true too?  Do you really think heaven is out of reach for you if you start going to Lutheren church to do your "Christianity"?
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2018, 08:39:28 AM »

One issue here is that the Catholic church is just really big.  I don't know exactly how many more priests there are than college sports coaches but I'm guessing it's a lot.
37k Priests in the US and this place says it represents 35k college coaches but I can't find anything better than that.  They ain't that far apart.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2018, 10:38:51 AM »

the Onion is all over this
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2018, 09:10:04 PM »

Noah was wrong to do this.

He forgot to include evangelical Baptist and Pentecostal churches, which are notoriously equal for stuff like this.  In fact, in some ways, I'd say they're worse than Catholics are regarding this issue.

At least Catholics have a hierarchy to take care of stuff like this, even if it's a hierarchy in name only.  Bapticostals?  They tend to be congregational by nature, meaning Preacher Billy Bob is the "Pope" of his church and he controls how issues like this are handled.  And it's usually handled by coverup.

and they never ever get moved to a whole new set of victims like Priests do after they've been caught.  Over and over and over.   Having a bureaucracy that actually helped would make it better, but when that bureaucracy is much more concerned with the feelings of the priests than the feelings of toddlers it's much much worse.

and what is the evidence that Baptists and Pentecostals are worse about this?  Is it a feeling you have?  Or maybe a study you read from the Catholic League?
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2018, 10:49:26 PM »

The recent PA story didn't have any of that?
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