Is Islam really a peaceful religion?

[dead0man]

And Malaysia, the world's most populous majority Muslim nation, seems to get along with it's neighbors fairly well.

That doesn't really disprove his point that nearly all conflicts on Earth going on right now involve Muslims on one or both sides.  Yes, you can point to a couple that don't and yeah, you can point to a couple of non-Muslim groups currently doing something horrible.  But for the most part, if you pick any random current conflict, you can safely bet that Muslims will be involved.  I don't think that's a coincidence, you're welcome to try and prove otherwise.

good luck!

[dead0man]

I'll agree that some of the conflicts involving Muslims don't have Islam to blame, but we can, and you just did, point to a more than a few that do.  Under that same criteria, are there any non-Muslim related religious based conflicts? No?  When was the last one?  The 30 Years War?  Maybe some Buddhist vs Hindu sh**t in India I don't know about because I'm a white dude from America and nobody teaches sh**t like that here?

[dead0man]

As for Indonesia (apologies, I couldn't remember which was the most populous Muslim nation), that is a good point (as East Timor is indeed Catholic), but other than that, Indonesia (and Malaysia) haven't really taken part in religious-based conflict for a while.

Yeah, just other than that one that's caused more deaths than Israel-Palestinian conflict.  Other than that....

[dead0man]

As for Indonesia (apologies, I couldn't remember which was the most populous Muslim nation), that is a good point (as East Timor is indeed Catholic), but other than that, Indonesia (and Malaysia) haven't really taken part in religious-based conflict for a while.

Yeah, just other than that one that's caused more deaths than Israel-Palestinian conflict.  Other than that....

Well, I don't see Indonesia getting into fights with anyone else, do you? And as I said with other conflicts, much of it could be an ethnic conflict as well.

Yeah, it could be, but since this was the "see, they ain't all violent" example, it kind of says a lot that they murdered more than 100,000 Catholics in a twenty year period.

[dead0man]

I agree, they are fairly tame by the standards of most Muslim nations.  And they murdered more than 100,000 Catholics in twenty years.

[dead0man]

Why are people even talking about Indonesia?

It was introduced by your side, as a case where a modern Muslim nation doesn't have issues with it's non-Muslim neighbors.  You've got to admit, it's pretty funny that the "good example" murdered 100,000 non-Muslims in a 20 year period.

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I hope you're right.  I'm 87% sure you're not.

[dead0man]

At least one of them thinks its ok to murder any Israeli that lives beyond the '67 borders.  Is that moderate?

[dead0man]

Many religions have violence in them. Just because the violence exists in it's history doesn't mean that the religion itself is violent.

Correct. The people arguing that Islam is violent are not arguing that just because there is violence in its history. They are arguing that because its theology justified that violence.

Nevermind their scripture, just look at the actions of people, and why they claim to be doing said actions.  If bad guy does bad thing and proudly claims before he does this bad thing that he is doing it for X reason, and many many thousands of old people, young people, men, women, healthy, weak, rich, poor, from a dozen different cultures all claim the reason they are about to do this horrible act is for X reason.  The rest of us should probably be concerned about X reason.

[dead0man]

Why do they if it's not that?  Teen angst?