Cuba becomes first country to end Mother-to-Child HIV Transmissions

[dead0man]

You guys might have a good point if the healthcare in Cuba worked as advertised (If you're poor and don't know anybody, sucks to be you unless it's an emergency) or America hadn't come up with tens of thousands of medical breakthroughs.

[dead0man]

You guys might have a good point if the healthcare in Cuba worked as advertised (If you're poor and don't know anybody, sucks to be you unless it's an emergency) or America hadn't come up with tens of thousands of medical breakthroughs.

that's complete bollocks. Cuba's health system has actually outpaced America in fighting measles, HIV and Malaria.

cite?

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You don't need to a look for a cite for this, since it's complete bull spit.

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So, what you're telling me, is that if, Og forbid, you come down with the Ebola....you think your chances are better in Havana than Omaha?

[dead0man]

Speaking of reading bro.....

I never saw a cite for Cuba being better at fighting measles or malaria and their treatment of gays and HIV patients isn't really something you'd want to repeat here or anywhere else.  Better now, sure, but still not as friendly as, say, Houston.  Where nobody has ever been put into permanent quarantine because they had the HIV.

Having a lower infant mortality rate isn't a sign of better health care, it's a sign of less sh**tty mothers (not that having a baby die on you means you're a sh**tty mother, obviously).  Plus, from your own freaking link

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So mothers in Cuba die during pregnancy more than 5 times more often than US mothers AND we're better at pulling out barely alive babies, of course the numbers for babies dying will be higher in the US.

And I'll note you never addressed the fact that if you're poor, aren't in the THE Party and don't live in Havana, medical care kind of sucks/doesn't exist.

Look, healthcare in Cuba is pretty damn good.....compared to other third world hell holes and I'm sure the best care in Cuba is better than the worst care in the US.  But it's pure stupid to claim the care you get there generally is on par with any 1st world country.  It's just not, no matter how much you may ideologically want it to be.


and just a couple of other points that didn't fit anywhere else.....Doctors in Cuba make $67....a MONTH....and that's with a large raise LAST YEAR.  I've made more money while typing this post (I'm at work) than a Cuba doctor makes in a week.  That's funked up.  And while care is free in Cuba, drugs ain't.  Out of pocket.  And if you make less than $50 a month it can be hard to find that $15 for your heart medicine.

also sociolismo.

[dead0man]

Basically socialized healthcare is better for mothers

I know you didn't mention it, but I assumed that was because it didn't fit your assumptions....so I'll mention it again.....mother die 5 times more often than mothers in the US.  Not a fraction of a percent higher, like Cuba's infant mortality rate, 5 times.  Five.  How is that better for mothers?

It seems you are only paying attention to the metrics that show what you want them to show and ignoring everything else.  Or just plugging your ears and going nah nah nah.

Like I said, Cuba does pretty damn good for a third world, authoritarian sh**t hole, but it's pure silly to compare it to the care one generally gets in the US.